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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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pembo2004
30-11-2016
have anyone got 205live on?
James Frederick
30-11-2016
First 205 Live on now.
James Frederick
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by pembo2004:
“have anyone got 205live on?”

Yeah first match not to bad.

It would still make more sense to have the Cruiserweights move to SD.
pembo2004
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Yeah first match not to bad.

It would still make more sense to have the Cruiserweights move to SD.”

yesa agreed maybe they should send SD women division to raw in an trade for cruiserweights??
James Frederick
30-11-2016
I can see them adding Cruiserweight Tag Titles if 205 does well but make them exclusive to 205 Live so not defended on the main shows.

1 hour each week will be the same as NXT and if they have a big enough roster it could be done.

Not yet of course I'd say a bare minimum of in 6 months.
pembo2004
30-11-2016
i can see swann winning here
James Frederick
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by pembo2004:
“i can see swann winning here”

Or Perkins costing him because he said if Swann wins he loses his rematch clause.
James Frederick
30-11-2016
OK I was wrong.
lionsof66
30-11-2016
Enjoyed that!

One episode down and they've already proved that the cruiserweights are lost on Raw. Give them some time and substance and they can be excellent. Enjoyed all 3 matches and thought the main event was excellent.
James Frederick
30-11-2016
So is Mike Mizanin a different character to The Miz?
Sargeant80
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by CardioCortez:
“I can see the Women's Royal Rumble happening.”

They would struggle to do a 30 woman rumble. In total they have 30 female wrestlers in all brands above NXT house show level with several being inactive. They would need most of the ex big name divas to pad out the numbers.

I have an issue with the two women's matches at the ppv. Becky and Nicky will be fine, but all through NXT neither Alexa or Carmella have never accross as being up for any kind of hardcore match. I remember Carmella getting upset and crying when Eva Marie accidently kicked her in the head at a house show.
James Frederick
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sargeant80:
“They would struggle to do a 30 woman rumble. In total they have 30 female wrestlers in all brands above NXT house show level with several being inactive. They would need most of the ex big name divas to pad out the numbers.”

They don't have to make it 30 15-20 would be enough.

They got 10 at Survivor Series admittedly with both champs but even then not all the women were in it so a few legends and one night NXT call ups maybe even like the Rumble has done in the past and just have a few one night indie women come in 15-20 would be pretty easy to do.
FMKK
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Obviously Id really love to see Goldberg come into the Rumble, smash through everybody and win the thing but realistically it isnt going to happen.

I mean WWE can tease it with Steph saying do you have one more title run in you to get a pop but there isnt a chance of it ever happening because no one knows if Goldberg could do a 10 - 15 min match.

I really cant see WWE letting Goldberg win the title at mania and then losing to Lesnar at say Summerslam, more likely they will repeat 2004 where either Lesnar will cost Goldberg the match or Lesnar throws Goldberg out and we get the match at Wrestlemania.

Looking realistically at next years Rumble who is more likely at winning the thing?

I would say Roman Reigns because WWE is going to push him regardless of what the fans want. I also feel that WWE will have a shock elimination kinda like when Maven eliminated Undertaker years ago so probably Strowman with get eliminated by Ellsworth.”

If they eliminate Stroman like that then they're the biggest idiots in the world.

I think John Cena should win the Rumble and then they can build around him trying to get his 16th title either against AJ Styles to wrap up their feud from the summer or against Undertaker if they do the rumoured AJ vs Taker match beforehand.
lionsof66
30-11-2016
Having sat and considered the full Wrestlemania card I've come to the conclusion that the Rumble winner will be one of two men... Finn Balor if he's recovered in time, or Bray Wyatt,

I've also concluded that a lot of big stars are going to struggle to make it on to the card. This is what I came up with, and the direction I think they are going in, but this doesnt include an IC match, a multi-man ladder match or a Cruiserweight match, which I assume will be included so who know's what misses out.

PRE: Cesaro and Sheamus vs The Club
PRE: Becky Lynch(c) vs Nikki Bella
PRE: American Alpha vs The Usos(c)
1: Roman Reigns(c) vs Braun Strowman
2: New Day(c) vs Enzo and Cass
3: Dean Ambrose vs Shane McMahon
4: Big Show vs Shaq
5: Sasha Banks(c) vs Bayley vs Charlotte
6: Seth Rollins vs Triple H

7: AJ Styles(c) vs Bray Wyatt
8: Andre The Giant Battle Royal
9: John Cena vs The Undertaker
10: Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg
11: Kevin Owens(c) vs Finn Balor

I could potentially see AJ Styles vs Cena, but then what the hell do you do with the Undertaker? We don't need to see Bray vs Taker again.

In this scenario Becky Lynch would have been revealed as the attacker of Nikki at Summerslam as she was pissed off that she wasn't team captain despite being Women's champion, and would be heel, and also Ambrose would have turned heel at some point.

I have bolded the matches I think are absolutley locked in already, and fitted the rest around them.
dave_windows
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“So is Mike Mizanin a different character to The Miz?”

No they're both annoying.
dave_windows
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“If they eliminate Stroman like that then they're the biggest idiots in the world.

I think John Cena should win the Rumble and then they can build around him trying to get his 16th title either against AJ Styles to wrap up their feud from the summer or against Undertaker if they do the rumoured AJ vs Taker match beforehand.”

I can see them doing it for shock value. I mean would we believe James has beaten AJ 3 times if someone told us?
whedon247
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“If they eliminate Stroman like that then they're the biggest idiots in the world.
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the survivor series elimination was well put together
JMTD
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sargeant80:
“I remember Carmella getting upset and crying when Eva Marie accidently kicked her in the head at a house show.”

There's quite a difference between Carmella having a scripted No DQ match and her getting legit kicked in the head and knocked out by Eva Marie.
dazc
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by lionsof66:
“Having sat and considered the full Wrestlemania card I've come to the conclusion that the Rumble winner will be one of two men... Finn Balor if he's recovered in time, or Bray Wyatt,

I've also concluded that a lot of big stars are going to struggle to make it on to the card. This is what I came up with, and the direction I think they are going in, but this doesnt include an IC match, a multi-man ladder match or a Cruiserweight match, which I assume will be included so who know's what misses out.

PRE: Cesaro and Sheamus vs The Club
PRE: Becky Lynch(c) vs Nikki Bella
PRE: American Alpha vs The Usos(c)
1: Roman Reigns(c) vs Braun Strowman
2: New Day(c) vs Enzo and Cass
3: Dean Ambrose vs Shane McMahon
4: Big Show vs Shaq
5: Sasha Banks(c) vs Bayley vs Charlotte
6: Seth Rollins vs Triple H

7: AJ Styles(c) vs Bray Wyatt
8: Andre The Giant Battle Royal
9: John Cena vs The Undertaker
10: Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg
11: Kevin Owens(c) vs Finn Balor

I could potentially see AJ Styles vs Cena, but then what the hell do you do with the Undertaker? We don't need to see Bray vs Taker again.

In this scenario Becky Lynch would have been revealed as the attacker of Nikki at Summerslam as she was pissed off that she wasn't team captain despite being Women's champion, and would be heel, and also Ambrose would have turned heel at some point.

I have bolded the matches I think are absolutley locked in already, and fitted the rest around them.”

Two points I would have cena vs taker main event and becky vs n Bella should not be on the pre show looks a great card
batdude_uk1
30-11-2016
Question, my memory is not as good as it once was, so if anyone could help me out, that would be great, when was the last time Y2J and the Miz had a feud??

As I think right now it would be great if sooner rather than later they could have one, as both are great on the mic (yes I know different brands etc but still......).
dave_windows
30-11-2016
I think Finn Balor winning the Rumble would be a bit far fetched considering it wasent long ago he got injured. I dont think he will even be back by Wrestlemania.

Bray Wyatt bad choice. Never liked the guy as Bray or Husky. I just dont buy him as a Main Eventer, the match with Taker seemed he was rushed into a Main Event match.
FMKK
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by whedon247:
“the survivor series elimination was well put together”

Yeah, it was done well. It protected Braun as strongly as possible. They need to do that again at the Rumble if he isn't going to win unless they're doing something to set up a feud for him. But Ellsworth putting him out like Maven put out Undertaker however many years ago would be dreadful.
Lee_Smith2
30-11-2016
Wouldn't Balor have a instant title shot anyway, on account of never losing?

I think Jericho vs. Owens could take place @ WM. There's a lot of potential there, especially if management let them more or less book it themselves.
FMKK
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by Lee_Smith2:
“Wouldn't Balor have a instant title shot anyway, on account of never losing?

I think Jericho vs. Owens could take place @ WM. There's a lot of potential there, especially if management let them more or less book it themselves.”

That would be fine if they took the title off Owens first.
CardioCortez
30-11-2016
I think they'll be at least three women's match on the Mania card.

Sasha Vs Bayley
Becky Vs Nikki
Charlotte Vs ? (Stephanie?)

Maybe even some sort of women's battle royal to get the rest on the card?
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