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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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The_don1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by JCR:
“People now seem to think the press conference is announcing a UK tournament for the network.”

Makes an awful lot more sense then a super show. We have some very talented guys over here and having shows on the network geared at a certain market also is a good idea
hazydayz
11-12-2016
More of an English thing than a UK thing then lol.
The_don1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“More of an English thing than a UK thing then lol.”

How?

The announcement will be in London which makes perfect sense.

If it is a tournament it will be open to all the talent in the UK.

Not really sure what your point is
hazydayz
11-12-2016
London? Surprise surprise. Everything revolves around London. I'm from the North. I guess we look at things differently up here.
The_don1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“London? Surprise surprise. Everything revolves around London. I'm from the North. I guess we look at things differently up here.”

What does it matter where you are from?

Why does it matter which way people in the north at look at things?

Are people in the north lacking access to the Network?

Do you moan about other filmed shows not being filmed in The North?

Its not a surprise because it makes logical sense more so if they have hired a venue in London to hold the tournament in maybe even the place where the press conference is taking place?

All perfectly logical on every single level
LeeleeSTAR
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“I can see that as it will give them a excuse to sign a few guys to stop them appearing on WOS or WCPW.”

Yeah, I find it odd that WWE are worried about WOS. I think the show will be bloody awful. WCPW on the other hand is very well put together, professional and doing very well on YouTube.

I would like to see WWE sign joe hendry though.
James Frederick
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by LeeleeSTAR:
“Yeah, I find it odd that WWE are worried about WOS. I think the show will be bloody awful. WCPW on the other hand is very well put together, professional and doing very well on YouTube.

I would like to see WWE sign joe hendry though.”

I agree WCPW is great I watch it on Extra as it's worth paying for.
hazydayz
11-12-2016
I agree. It's the Capital after all and home to the wonderful Royal Family and and institutions such as the BBC and all the global elite and the fine celebrities this country has to offer. I don't care about any of that. Load of old nonsense and most up here would agree. This whole UK thing is a bit hokey. I can understand the tourist side of it though. The corgis and the tea and the crumpets, I get all that. That's the good thing about Brexit, we can all hopefully go our separate ways and we can be 4 individual nations.

I just care about Scotland. I am fond of Manchester though. Good place, good people.
The_don1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“I agree. It's the Capital after all and home to the wonderful Royal Family and and institutions such as the BBC and all the global elite and the fine celebrities this country has to offer. I don't care about any of that. Load of old nonsense and most up here would agree. This whole UK thing is a bit hokey. I can understand the tourist side of it though. The corgis and the tea and the crumpets, I get all that. That's the good thing about Brexit, we can all hopefully go our separate ways and we can be 4 individual nations.

I just care about Scotland. I am fond of Manchester though. Good place, good people.”

So really its no logical sensible reason just a load of ramblings.

They are filming a show that will be broadcast on The Network, They will be looking at the most sensible location to film this show for The Network.

They will more then likely make this decision based on one or all of

Easy transport links.
Availability of a suitable venue.
Cost of venues
Suitability of location for required talent (for example if a number of have work in a certain location during the time frame)

And likely other reasons as well.

If people "care" about a location wont be a reason
LeeleeSTAR
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“I can see that as it will give them a excuse to sign a few guys to stop them appearing on WOS or WCPW.”

If it's a tournament shot over multiple weeks then I doubt they are using the o2 unless it's for the final.
hazydayz
11-12-2016
London is full of people that's for sure. Definately plenty there. I'm sure they will do fine. I wish them well in whatever they do.
The_don1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“London is full of people that's for sure. Definately plenty there. I'm sure they will do fine. I wish them well in whatever they do.”

They filming a production

What have people got to do with the "success" of that objective?

They can even film a production where there are no people as people could use transport to get to the location if they wish to.

People or no people really has little to do with the making of the production

Now if went to a location that was not suitable for the production that might be a issue
The_don1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by LeeleeSTAR:
“If it's a tournament shot over multiple weeks then I doubt they are using the o2 unless it's for the final.”

They might not use the 02 main arena but the 02 indigo
hazydayz
11-12-2016
WOS might be a production, a television show. A show that could be done at any number of the BBC or ITV studios all across the UK. A show where tickets are free, like every other TV show because the audience is only needed to provide laughter or applause at the right parts of the show.

The WWE is gonna do what they know, wrestling, and it'll be done the old fashioned way, in an arena with paying customers. It's a pay day. It's not WWE coming here because they care about any British wrestlers or they think they owe the people here something, whatever it is it will just be a WWE show. And that's why I said it's good if it is in London, you have your London people there, people going in and out of the city and the tourists so they're never not gonna do a good crowd. When you mix them all together they'll be able to pool together enough Londoners and tourists to see the show and obviously pay enough money to cover their rent for the arena and the wages of the wrestlers and camera crews etc, the difference with WOS and infact any TV show is that the TV channel foots the bill.
dave_windows
11-12-2016
They are completely overreacting. So what if WOS ends up a success its not like its going to be a threat to WWE. Just let the UK guys wrestle in the UK.
The_don1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by hazydayz:
“WOS might be a production, a television show. A show that could be done at any number of the BBC or ITV studios all across the UK. A show where tickets are free, like every other TV show because the audience is only needed to provide laughter or applause at the right parts of the show.

The WWE is gonna do what they know, wrestling, and it'll be done the old fashioned way, in an arena with paying customers. It's a pay day. It's not WWE coming here because they care about any British wrestlers or they think they owe the people here something, whatever it is it will just be a WWE show. And that's why I said it's good if it is in London, you have your London people there, people going in and out of the city and the tourists so they're never not gonna do a good crowd. When you mix them all together they'll be able to pool together enough Londoners and tourists to see the show and obviously pay enough money to cover their rent for the arena and the wages of the wrestlers and camera crews etc, the difference with WOS and infact any TV show is that the TV channel foots the bill.”

Some more old time thinking.

When you have something like The Network its a very good idea to have some content aimed at a certain territory. Its not about "the people" its about gaining content for the Network.

Of course they are going to earn money but most important factor will still be getting content. They will likely do this at some point in other territories The Network is available in but as the U.K is one of the bigger markets its a logical place to start.
hazydayz
11-12-2016
You have to remember dave that for 99.9999999% of the population, outside of Hulk Hogan in the 80s, the only other time wrestling was popular was during the Attitude Era 15 years ago. Wrestling is not relevant, the ones in WWE now are not household names and many that did watch in the Attitude Era - the last time wrestling was decent have long moved on and that's the one thing about wrestling, when people do move on or stop watching, they tend to do it forever, they rarely get pulled back in.


WOS has been gone long enough and has enough nice memories attached to it that it could be very memorable and could do very well just based on nostalgia alone. It will be a happy experience, they will promote it as a good time event, a fun show for all the family and have enough on there to fill an hour and appeal to everyone.


The WWE of course despite being the world's biggest wrestling company doesn't really have any of those feelings. I don't think good time feeling can be applied, I don't think having a WWE show on British TV would be welcomed or talked nicely about nor do I think any channels would go for it.

So the WWE Network is the place to be for it and more than likely it will just fly under the radar, the only people that will know about it are those that already watch WWE whereas WOS could easily have columns in the newspapers, some of the WOS originals having new found fame again, interviews on breakfast TV, appearances on celebrity shows like Strictly Come Dancing and I'm a Celebrity and that's not to mention any new young wrestlers that will be favourited because the one thing TV companeis like to do on these shows is pick their favourites, it's like the X Factor, the runners up usually do better than the winner. This WOS could end up not only reintroducing long forgotten names to the UK but introduce them to a younger audience and get them all back on TV.


But of course like with ICW at the Hydro the WWE has to step in and throw their weight around and try and steal any spotlight they can for themselves. They're hidden well behind a £30 Sky Sports paywall. It's not as if they're on Sky One or Sky Atlantic or FOX. They're well out of sight to begin with. It's not as if the average TV viewer is gonna decide to watch a bit of WWF wrestling after WOS lol unless they wanna spend the big bux on Sky Sports and not many will do that.
James Frederick
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Some more old time thinking.

When you have something like The Network its a very good idea to have some content aimed at a certain territory. Its not about "the people" its about gaining content for the Network.

Of course they are going to earn money but most important factor will still be getting content. They will likely do this at some point in other territories The Network is available in but as the U.K is one of the bigger markets its a logical place to start.”

From what I know the UK is the biggest market outside of North America.
The_don1
11-12-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“From what I know the UK is the biggest market outside of North America.”

So makes sense when you have a big market to make content aimed at that market

We have no idea what the WWE has planned for the future, They could even looking at keeping a NXT training camp over here and have regular shows on The Network so stopping people working for WOS could also make sense
batdude_uk1
12-12-2016
Oh a completely random thought, does anyone else remember the little girl who was featured so heavily in NXT, as Bailey's number one fan?

I wonder if she still goes to shoes anymore? I don't know why this just came to my mind, but it just did!
LeeleeSTAR
12-12-2016
The whole WOS and WWE thing confuses me. Isn't WOS only back for something like 6 episodes?
hazydayz
12-12-2016
The point behind it is WWE doing some kind of tournament here or UK show where they can essentially buy all the UK talent appearing on WOS and paying them to stay here and while they're at it making sure they cannot compete anywhere else.


Basically the wrestlers appearing on WOS can either continue to work the indies and WOS and take the chance of WOS being successful and having more episodes or commissioned or take WWE's offer of a tournament or UK show and be paid enough for it and not be able to work for anyone else.


That means WWE can play both sides of it. If WOS is popular again and takes off then they will have made sure most of the UK talent cannot work on it and if it doesn't take off then give it 6 months to a year and Vince McMahon can fire them all and it's no harm done to his company apart from losing some money.
James Frederick
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Oh a completely random thought, does anyone else remember the little girl who was featured so heavily in NXT, as Bailey's number one fan?

I wonder if she still goes to shoes anymore? I don't know why this just came to my mind, but it just did!”

Izzy

I'm sure she still goes to her shoes or she would walk around bare footed unless she has some kind of shoe phobia?
dave_windows
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by LeeleeSTAR:
“The whole WOS and WWE thing confuses me. Isn't WOS only back for something like 6 episodes?”

I think its only a pilot to see if it goes well. Most people probably only watching it nostalgia because they watched it as a kid then see this and say it isnt what it used to be.
batdude_uk1
12-12-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Izzy

I'm sure she still goes to her shoes or she would walk around bare footed unless she has some kind of shoe phobia?”

God damn it! "shows" it what I meant to write, I have no idea why shoes came out!
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