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World Wrestling Entertainment Discussion 42 (Spoilers)
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brb
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“He has a habit of praising heels and kissing Charlotte's backside every week and slagging off the past generations and god forbid if you use the Diva term he takes offense to it when it was the normal word last year.

Whether you call the female roster Diva or Women its still the same bloody thing. He just likes to nit pick at everything and it doesnt matter if people still call them Divas, its only a message board not WWE TV.”

Not really slagging off past generations. For whatever reason (and yes, I do understand that the reason is Vince and WWE, not the wrestlers themsevles), but the previous generation of female wrestlers are not even remotely close to being on the same level to the likes of Charlotte and Sasha. Yes, they didn't get the same opportunities, but this nostalgia you have is just that -- nostalgia. I've been watching some old PPV's recently, and the women matches are not where even remotely close to being on the same level.
Lee_Smith2
23-12-2016
Alundra Blayze had the occasional really good match, as did the post Attitude girls (Molly, Victoria, Trish, Lita). The latter really improved from being the eye candy they were originally hired to be. Generally since the late 90's higher up's portrayed nearly all women on the roster as scheming, bitchy amoral one dimensional wannabe models who belonged to a daytime soap. What with that, the divas tag and few if any matches lasting longer than 6 minutes there wasn't much to work with.

Wholesome Mighty Molly Holly, Lita raped by Kane, Natalya's flatulence problem, Piggy James, Eve Torres, AJ Lee as as a crazy chick, Naomi as a Funkette.
The_don1
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“He has a habit of praising heels and kissing Charlotte's backside every week and slagging off the past generations and god forbid if you use the Diva term he takes offense to it when it was the normal word last year.

Whether you call the female roster Diva or Women its still the same bloody thing. He just likes to nit pick at everything and it doesnt matter if people still call them Divas, its only a message board not WWE TV.”

What's wrong with praising heels? It's only a message board not WWE TV, if you think someone is doing a good job surely they should be praised?

Do you not have a habit of slagging off the present generation?
The_don1
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Yes but they had been building it for months now. Granted it probably was always going to be a 5 min squash but thought they might have built it up for something interesting.”

Not sure you understand what building a match means if you really think they was building this for months
Harris_07
23-12-2016
If the Hall of Fame ceremony was under kayfabe, I'd love to have seen Jericho induct himself.
Harris_07
23-12-2016
My secret santa present from work was this:

http://www.ringsidecollectibles.com/...ck_018_moc.jpg

I'm looking forward to constructing it first thing on Christmas Day!
FMKK
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by Harris_07:
“My secret santa present from work was this:

http://www.ringsidecollectibles.com/...ck_018_moc.jpg

I'm looking forward to constructing it first thing on Christmas Day! ”

That's amazing!
batdude_uk1
23-12-2016
Just watching a few classic matches, and it got me thinking, I wonder what happens to all of the old title belts that are not in use anymore?

They must be kept somewhere surely?
James Frederick
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Just watching a few classic matches, and it got me thinking, I wonder what happens to all of the old title belts that are not in use anymore?

They must be kept somewhere surely?”

Some Wrestlers keep them.

A few days ago CM Punk gave his (The one he won at MITB) away to Domino (From the tag team with the 50's gimmick)

Apparently they were together in Punks storage locker Domino found it in a box said it looked cool and Punk said keep it.
batdude_uk1
23-12-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“Some Wrestlers keep them.

A few days ago CM Punk gave his (The one he won at MITB) away to Domino (From the tag team with the 50's gimmick)

Apparently they were together in Punks storage locker Domino found it in a box said it looked cool and Punk said keep it.”

That is amazing, thanks for that story.

What git me thinking was, I got the Story of Wrestlemania blue ray, and was seeing all of the past belts, and thinking they have gone through a heck of a lot of them over the decades.

The famous Wrestlemania X ladder match with two Intercontinental belts, for example, one must have been put some where else, after that.

I would love to just randomly find one, imagine that, it would be amazing!
dave_windows
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“What's wrong with praising heels? It's only a message board not WWE TV, if you think someone is doing a good job surely they should be praised?

Do you not have a habit of slagging off the present generation?”

No. Theres lots of good wrestlers in WWE today. Not everyone of them is good but some of them are.
dave_windows
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Just watching a few classic matches, and it got me thinking, I wonder what happens to all of the old title belts that are not in use anymore?

They must be kept somewhere surely?”

Doesn't Hogan own the original 1985 version of the WWF World Title?
The_don1
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“No. Theres lots of good wrestlers in WWE today. Not everyone of them is good but some of them are.”

Yet it seems you spend most of your time on here being negative about the product
DanielF
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“Doesn't Hogan own the original 1985 version of the WWF World Title?”

A lot of wrestlers retain belts; you only have to see the ones displayed in Miz or The Rock's Hines to see that.
dave_windows
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by The_don1:
“Yet it seems you spend most of your time on here being negative about the product”

What about the most overratted Diva in WWE history Charlotte or the Bullying Tactics of the Russian Rusev. Yeah. Everyone else no. NXT has a lot of good stars just a shame there impact isnt the same when they hit the main roster.

I dont know why im bothering replying to your post its the same thing over again and the same reply from me time and time again.

What you want me to say? New era is crap and they ll never be as good as the legends from the 70s, 80s and 90s? Ok yes then if it pleases you.
dave_windows
24-12-2016
While we're in the Christmas period whats been everyones favourite Christmas episode of Monday Night Raw?

Just refresh everyones memory the big match for each year goes as follows

1993 Marty Jannetty vs Johnny Pollo
1994 Tatanka vs British Bulldog
1995 Razor Ramon vs Yokozuna
1996 Razor Ramon vs Bret Hart
1997 Shawn Michaels vs Triple H
1998 Mankind vs Shane McMahon
1999 Kane vs Big Show
2000 The Rock vs Undertaker
2001 Chris Jericho vs Kurt Angle vs The Rock
2002 Jim Ross & Jerry Lawler vs Lance Storm & William Regal
2003 Year in Review Show
2004 Year in Review Show
2005 Shawn Michaels vs Triple H
2006 Randy Orton vs Carlito
2007 Shawn Michaels & Triple H vs Umaga & Ken Kennedy
2008 John Cena & Trish Stratus vs Beth Phoenix & Santino Marella
2009 Sheamus vs MVP
2010 Miz, Alex Riley & Sheamus vs Randy Orton, John Morrison & Jerry Lawler
2011 Miz, Alberto Del Rio & Dolph Ziggler vs Zack Ryder, Daniel Bryan & CM Punk
2012 John Cena vs Alberto Del Rio
2013 John Cena, CM Punk & Big E vs The Shield
2014 Bray Wyatt vs Dean Ambrose
2015 Dean Ambrose vs Sheamus
2016 Roman Reigns & Seth Rollins vs Kevin Owens & Chris Jericho
FMKK
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“What about the most overratted Diva in WWE history Charlotte”

Because she's a bad guy on TV?

Quote:
“or the Bullying Tactics of the Russian Rusev. Yeah.”

Why are you real life angry towards the guy playing a fake character?

Does this mean that no heels can be good workers in your eyes?
Danny_Francis
24-12-2016
Charlotte Flair isn't overrated she's among the better female wrestlers of the current era
Corabal
24-12-2016
https://www.reddit.com/r/SquaredCirc...s_should_main/
dave_windows
24-12-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“Because she's a bad guy on TV?



Why are you real life angry towards the guy playing a fake character?

Does this mean that no heels can be good workers in your eyes?”

For christ sake give it a rest.
FMKK
25-12-2016
Originally Posted by dave_windows:
“For christ sake give it a rest.”

But you've never said why you actually think Charlotte is overrated.
James Frederick
25-12-2016
I would say Trish was the most overrated she was good especially considering how she started but she's nowhere near as great as WWE like to make out.

Compared to today's stars in ring wise she was only OK.
pembo2004
25-12-2016
merry christmas guys
The_don1
25-12-2016
Originally Posted by James Frederick:
“I would say Trish was the most overrated she was good especially considering how she started but she's nowhere near as great as WWE like to make out.

Compared to today's stars in ring wise she was only OK.”

I think part of the reason is due to how poor the rest of the females was in those days. Her and Lita's run stood out simply because they actually had one unlike everyone else who matches etc seemed to have been done at the last minute when someone could be bothered and with a person with a very short attention span in mind

it would be very different now
The_don1
25-12-2016
Originally Posted by FMKK:
“But you've never said why you actually think Charlotte is overrated.”

I been wondering the same

Is it her ring work?

Her mike skills?
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