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Old 18-07-2016, 23:36
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Raw is starting off tonight with the GM Announcements according to WWE.Com, which is a better way of doing it than last week when they built the whole show up to the commissioner announcement and it turned out to be Shane and Steph.

Also let's not forget Dean Ambrose is defending the title against Seth Rollins. Anyone think WWE may actually make a title switch before Battleground. It's unlikely but with the draft tomorrow night WWE might be tempted to have Rollins as the champ.
I get that the Draft is tomorrow but let's not lose sight on the fact that Battleground is this Sunday if you asking me I think it would be crazy of WWE to have the WWE title change hands 6 days before a PPV.
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Old 18-07-2016, 23:38
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I don't know what changes WWE will make to their shows but I don't think it will end up being something that will satisfy me or fans like me. I think for the past 8 years they have made Raw and PPVs PG they have tried to make the shows look like sport.

The white ropes.
The crowd in darkness.
Wrestlers having realistic sounding names.
Wrestlers wearing tights/pants and boots only and looking like a wrestler.


I'm more of a fan of characters and storylines and at the same time I don't like some of the wrestlers. I cringe when Bray Wyatt talks. I don't like Kevin Owens. I don't buy into many of the wrestlers. The show is basically the IWC's dream. It really is a dream show. It's full of matches and promos where the wrestlers talk about matches and talk about belts. The whole thing revolves around the matches. They've shown no signs of changing that at all. I think the draft will happen tomorrow and the shows will be the same, just matches and wrestlers talking about matches. I think a real change has to be made at some point but maybe John Cena had a point when he said them going into China and other territories they had to cut back on the promos and drama and focus on just the inring action as that can be understood by everyone without saying a word. Maybe they do have a point.


And of course I'll be told I'm wrong but the Disco Inferno said something interesting on Friday when he was talking about Eric Bischoff on JRs podcast and how Steve Austin has been critical of WWE and the whole Russo and Cornette issues and the things Shawn Michaels said about how what he did was wrestling and what WWE do now is not wrestling. All these people who don't all get along, some have very personal issues, they all have problems but yet they all agree that something needs to be done in the wrestling business, they all seem to agree that what's on TV now isn't wrestling, it's just not professional wrestling. And i wish more people online would listen to those people and people like myself and realise that there's enough people outside the business (like me) and some pretty big names there that I mentioned that all seem to have the same feeling, the same way of thinking. Not everyone is gonna agree but it's worrying that so many big names from wrestling think the way I do and can see the same things I can see. I'd even bring others into it, I'd mention Bret Hart and his comments about the business for definate too.


It seems like a lot of the really big names in wrestling, whether they wrestled in the business, worked in the office or helped book it, a lot of these people seem to think the same way and Russo hit the nail on the head, everyone that can make a difference in wrestling is outside the business. Not one of them is employed by a major wrestling company. They don't have Bret Hart teaching the wrestlers to wrestle at the Performance Centre, they don't have Shawn teaching them to wrestle, they don't have Steve there teaching them to wrestle, they don't give promo classes. They wont let Jim Ross, the best announcer in the business at ringside to call the matches, they wont let Russo or Bischoff in the company to give advice or input. Everyone that could either teach those young men and women how to really work and give the company some fresh ideas is out the door. Kept at arms length and you've got 30 writers there, Jamie Noble teaching people to wrestle, even Ric Flair, how can you not have Ric Flair teach those men and women to talk? Everyone that could make a real difference is out the door, not under contract and if they are it's a Legends deal which means they wont have any say in what happens on the show or the Performance Centre.


That's why I hope WWE surprises me. Next week will be exactly 8 years since Raw and PPVs went PG and they decided to make Raw a clean wrestling show. I hope next week they surprise me and many others and try and do something different.
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Old 19-07-2016, 00:09
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So to try and inject a little bit of life here, here's a talking point. If you could make your top picks for tomorrow's draft, what would they be? Let's say 8 men, 4 women, 3 from NXT GM and your announce team. Two currently injured stars and you can also use women for your NXT picks.

GM
Sting

Announce
Mauro
Renee
Graves

Men
Styles
Rollins
Gallows
Anderson
Owens
Miz
Kalisto
Zayn

Women
Charlotte
Nattie
Becky
Sasha

NXT
Balor
Gable
Jordan

Injured
Nikki Bella
Tyson Kidd (If any chance of coming back, if not Neville)
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Old 19-07-2016, 00:15
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This will cheer you up Panda Santana.
https://youtu.be/C_7xmbCgH2M
Thanks for that now I feel like doing some synchro dancing Swags style.

Spoiler
NO! NO! NO!
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Old 19-07-2016, 00:30
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Fuller list of those suing WWE-

Joe Laurinaitis (Road Warrior Animal)/Jimmy Snuka/Paul Orndorff/Chavo Guerrero Sr./Chavo Guerrero Jr./Bryan Clark/Ahmed Johnson/James Harris (Kamala)/Dave Hebner/Earl Hebner/Chris Pallies (King Kong Bundy)/Ken Patera/Terry Michael Brunk (Sabu)/Bill Eadie (Ax)/Barry Darsow (Smash)/John Nord (The Berzerker)/Terry Szopinski (The Warlord)/Stone Havea Vailahi (The Barbarian)/Jonathan Hugger (Johnny The Bull)/Jim Brunzell/Shane Douglas/Marc Copani (Muhammad Hassan)/Mark Canterbury (Henry Godwin, Mideon)/Mark Jindrak/Marty Jannetty/John Heidenreich/Michael Halac (Mantaur)/George Grey (One Man Gang/Akeem)/Susan Green/Angelo Mosca/Jim Powers/Mike Enos/Butch Reed/Carlene Moore-Begnaud (Jazz)/Rodney Begnad (Rodney Mack)/Sylvain Grenier/Omar Mijares (Omar Atlas)/Don Leo Heaton/Victoria Otis (Princess Victoria)/Judy Hardee (Judy Martin)/Bernard Knighton (Axl Rotten)/Bobbi Billiard/Larry “The Crippler” Oliver/Timothy Smith (Rex King)/Tracy Smothers/Rick Jones (Black Bart)/Ken Johnson (Slick)/Ferrin Jess Barr (JJ Funk)/Lou Marconi/Rod Price/Donald Driggers/Ronald Scott Heard (Outlaw Ron Bass)/Boris Zhukov

Basically everyone who hasn't signed a contract since the point the contracts have had a 'you can't sue us for brain injury' clause in them (2005 IIRC).
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Old 19-07-2016, 00:33
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I'd be interested to go through the names of those still alive who continue to wrestle (Sabu, Chavo for example) despite now knowing the risk.
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Old 19-07-2016, 00:45
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axl rottens estate though, he never wrestled for them and even if he did step into the ring on a wwe show, it was for him to swing a chair and that was it.
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Old 19-07-2016, 00:52
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From a quick search, at least five of those names (Chavo Guerrero, Shane Douglas, Rodney Mack, The Warlord and The Barbarian) have worked matches in 2016. How can they seriously argue what they are when they know the risks and continue to wrestle (in the case of Guerrero and Douglas up to a month ago)?
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:00
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I get that the Draft is tomorrow but let's not lose sight on the fact that Battleground is this Sunday if you asking me I think it would be crazy of WWE to have the WWE title change hands 6 days before a PPV.
But WWE does crazy.

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Old 19-07-2016, 01:00
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here we go
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:00
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WWE now responded saying this is the third lawsuit of this nature from the same attorney, the previous two have been dismissed amd they expect this will be too.
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:02
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Here come the GM Announcements.
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:03
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steph chooses hunter and shane chooses daniel bryan

i want some originality, give us angle or regal with tajiri
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:03
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I do like that Commissioner has made a comeback lol. Very old school
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:05
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I can actually see Steph naming herself GM
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:06
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raw turning into nitro, all thats missing is the nitro girls
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:06
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I can actually see Steph naming herself GM
Well she just took the Cruiserweight Division.

Good to see that back though.
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:06
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Morning all, I'm so going to miss these two arguing on a morning. The draft does mean that right?
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:07
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Excited for Cruiserweights to be back! I hope that the Woman's Championship won't be going to Smackdown... would be a backward step for the division.
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:07
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Wow. Mick Foley!
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:07
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holy shit i did not see that coming
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:08
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Raw gets a Cruiserweight Division so that will include a title.

That is good news.



Mick as Raw GM bit of a shock
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:08
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Ok so that was unexpected from Stephanie.
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:08
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GM Foleys back... Hmm interesting notice Heel Commisoner and Face GM on Raw?
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Old 19-07-2016, 01:10
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Stone Cold to manage Smackdown?
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