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Old 25-07-2016, 16:28
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But they don't expect that. They've made it clear in multiple conference calls that they know most of their audience don't watch all of their programming, they've said more than once they know that people often don't even watch all three hours of Raw.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:34
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Personally I hope that day never happens!
Mate seriously why do you dislike Rusev so much other than the fact his Bulgarian?
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:35
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Looks like Hogan got his knickers in a twist and got two of my drawings taken down off of Society6. ****ing idiotic twatface ****!

I guess that Gawker money isn't enough.

What's worse is there are other Hogan related stuff on there and a lot of it is shit. So I've now taken every wrestling related drawing down just to be safe.

Idiot.
Agree with you on those Hogan drawings especially the one where he looks like his having a shit.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:37
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Mate seriously why do you dislike Rusev so much other than the fact his Bulgarian?
It's because it is all real to him, And he is told by WWE to hate Rusev
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:38
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Hogans taken down your Hollywood NWO drawing? Even though it looks so life like? What a pillock.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:40
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Announced this morning is the Summerslam Concert (inspired name) in aid of Connors Cure. Will take place Thursday of Summerslam week with...... Yeah you guessed it, Flo Rida. This man is like a disease, GO AWAY!
Either Flo Rida has a new single coming out or Vinnie Mac must love Flo Rida so much that he has moved in with him.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:44
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It's because it is all real to him, And he is told by WWE to hate Rusev
Ah of course and we must cheer every face and boo every heel.
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:47
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I love Rusev. He is by far my favourite wrestler at the moment
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Old 25-07-2016, 16:50
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I love Rusev. He is by far my favourite wrestler at the moment
Yeah totally agree the guys a good wrestler if WWE are committed to his character I can see a monster push incoming for him.
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Old 25-07-2016, 17:37
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Battleground was really good last night zayn vs Owens was amazing they should be champs within the next 12 months triple treat was ok glad ambrose won and the pops for sasha and Bayley were amazing looking forward to raw will we see a demon I wonder
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Old 25-07-2016, 17:52
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Rusev is without doubt one of the brightest talents they have at the minute, A long slow sustained push towards main event would do great for him,

He has a lot going for him, Remember he can sell too, His matches with Jack Swagger when he sold the ankle lock while doing accolade was something else. Apparently he also has an awesome sense of humour and a personality....WWE just hides all that from us

Future champion for sure
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Old 25-07-2016, 18:30
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Rusev is without doubt one of the brightest talents they have at the minute, A long slow sustained push towards main event would do great for him,

He has a lot going for him, Remember he can sell too, His matches with Jack Swagger when he sold the ankle lock while doing accolade was something else. Apparently he also has an awesome sense of humour and a personality....WWE just hides all that from us

Future champion for sure
Rusev is amazing. I love him. His first push til Wrestlemania 31 was probably the best WWE have done in ages in terms of making a star and some of the matches with Cena were really good too. They saddled him with shit afterwards for that Ziggler feud but he still managed to be entertaining. If they had sustained his push after that Cena feud he would be a main eventer already but at least they're rebooting it. If they had have kept him on the up they'd have a homemade Lesnar style monster at 10% of the price. Pity they didn't put him on Smackdown because I think there's more scope for him to get to the top there.

Speaking of which, Ambrose has the title but who the hell is he going to feud with. Cena and Styles is still going and Orton will be focusing on Lesnar so who is left, Del Rio? I hope not. They need to debut Samoa Joe on Smackdown pronto because there's a serious lack of main event stars.
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Old 25-07-2016, 18:57
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Really strong action packed show. My only critism is the long awaited Shield triple threat was a very slight let down. The crowd and booking mixed together didn't help - the reaction to Reigns was hostile but the commentators had to brush it aside.

PPV didn't up my lack of interest in the product. Though the draft was a necessity, it feels so meh. It's too recycled and the WWE product is too overexposed. Complete lack of freshness, excitement, anticpation and engrossment. It just gets duller.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:01
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Have the reactions to Reigns become sort of pantomime boo's or do people actually dislike him? It seems like people just boo him for the sake of it at times.

I think he's pretty solid wrestling wise but they just need to have him talk less and kick arse more.

Rusev is really funny in the interviews I've seen him in but I do wish Lana would piss off. She's terrible and I haven't liked her from day one.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:23
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I get the second drawing being taken down as it's really close to the original but FFS the first one is just fanart.

Well Hogan is an idiot so it fits.

I take it back FMKK, you were right, Hogan really is a terrible human being!
Just saw this. I think I was wrong. He's not a terrible human being, he's a ****!
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:27
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Have the reactions to Reigns become sort of pantomime boo's or do people actually dislike him? It seems like people just boo him for the sake of it at times.

II have think he's pretty solid wrestling wise but they just need to have him talk less and kick arse more.
It started off as genuine dislike for his push over the other performers. But that was in late 2014. Now it's simply caught on like a catchphrase or mannerism would.

There was probably a genuine amount of real heat last night, however. Due mainly to failing a drug test after being given the role model top job - albeit in haphazard fashion - yet screwing up. There's nothing wrong with top sports star being sometimes universally disliked despite being talented at their job (Mayweather, Bryant, Ronaldo etc). Vince just handles it stubbenly.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:36
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It started off as genuine dislike for his push over the other performers. But that was in late 2014. Now it's simply caught on like a catchphrase or mannerism would.

There was probably a genuine amount of real heat last night, however. Due mainly to failing a drug test after being given the role model top job - albeit in haphazard fashion - yet screwing up. There's nothing wrong with top sports star being sometimes universally disliked despite being talented at their job (Mayweather, Bryant, Ronaldo etc). Vince just handles it stubbenly.
There's so much heat in having him be a good-and-he-knows-it heel who has great matches, wins and acts like a dick about it.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:37
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I think what many people tend to forget is that wrestling is not real.


Therefore any steroids he takes doesn't give him any advantage in the ring because there is no real competition taking place. That might be the case in real sports but not wrestling. Wrestling is a work. That's why I don't see the point in testing them for all these different things, many of them completely legal because they're not being used in a way to cheat any system or gain any upper hand in the ring because everything that happens in the ring is a work. No one is really winning or losing any matches.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:43
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Battleground was really good last night zayn vs Owens was amazing they should be champs within the next 12 months triple treat was ok glad ambrose won and the pops for sasha and Bayley were amazing looking forward to raw will we see a demon I wonder
Kane? Isn't he on Smackdown?
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:44
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I think what many people tend to forget is that wrestling is not real.


Therefore any steroids he takes doesn't give him any advantage in the ring because there is no real competition taking place. That might be the case in real sports but not wrestling. Wrestling is a work. That's why I don't see the point in testing them for all these different things, many of them completely legal because they're not being used in a way to cheat any system or gain any upper hand in the ring because everything that happens in the ring is a work. No one is really winning or losing any matches.
And I think that you tend to forget that we are all adults and we know that wrestling is fake.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:46
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And I think that you tend to forget that we are all adults and we know that wrestling is fake.
Sometimes I wonder. I really do.


No wrestling fan should be putting any heat on Roman Reigns.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:46
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I think what many people tend to forget is that wrestling is not real.


Therefore any steroids he takes doesn't give him any advantage in the ring because there is no real competition taking place. That might be the case in real sports but not wrestling. Wrestling is a work. That's why I don't see the point in testing them for all these different things, many of them completely legal because they're not being used in a way to cheat any system or gain any upper hand in the ring because everything that happens in the ring is a work. No one is really winning or losing any matches.
Missing the point. So many talented performers, Eddie Guerrero being an obvious example, doped themselves into an early grave trying to jack up their bodies to freakish proportions to satisfy the fetishisation of muscles by Vince McMahon and WWE as an institution. There's a talented guy, great character and super over who happened to be under 6 foot so felt the pressure to morph his body beyond what it could cope with in order to stay in the company's good favour. When so many people in the business in part because of steroid abuse, then of course WWE introduce some degree of testing for PR purposes.

The real interesting thing is that Reigns actually popped the test. What does that tell us; either he's dumb or he's fallen out of favour and they want an excuse to de-push him without admitting defeat. He's certainly not the only user.

In terms of the booing, it's just an excuse for people who want to hate him and steroids just have negative cultural connotations.
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Old 25-07-2016, 19:51
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Sometimes I wonder. I really do.


No wrestling fan should be putting any heat on Roman Reigns.
Of course no fan should ever put a lot of heat on Roman Reigns even though his an idiot for failing a wellness policy test for taking a substance. I don't know what world you live in Hazy but fans are entitled to boo Reigns it's his own fault.
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Old 25-07-2016, 20:01
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Have the reactions to Reigns become sort of pantomime boo's or do people actually dislike him? It seems like people just boo him for the sake of it at times.

I think he's pretty solid wrestling wise but they just need to have him talk less and kick arse more.

Rusev is really funny in the interviews I've seen him in but I do wish Lana would piss off. She's terrible and I haven't liked her from day one.
For the most part I genuinely believe it's Cena reaction. It's booing because it's almost written into the show now. A new What, Wooo, Yes Yes Yes, CM Punk.
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Old 25-07-2016, 20:04
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I'm sure he's not the only one using things they shouldn't be but there are things on their Wellness Policy which are off limits which CAN be prescribed by the talent's own doctor. Look at Adam Rose and his ADHD medication. It really could have been something very small that was overlooked by both Reigns and the WWE and it only came to light when he failed the test or as you say it could be an excuse to slow down his push. If the WWE was firing on all cylinders and doing their best to create stars I could put a lot of weight behind that theory myself but who else is there? Who else have they even tried to make an effort with apart from Dean Ambrose and even then they're not really doing much with him. There's literally no one else that could tick the kind of boxes Roman Reigns could.


As far as people wanting to boo him, i'm not saying they can't boo him but don't boo him like he's letting the team down or he's putting someone else at risk or he's affecting someone else. The only person he's cheated is himself. It doesn't matter how hard Roman Reigns works, hard work doesn't determine where you go in the WWE, one man decides that, that's Vince McMahon, if he doesn't believe in you then it doesn't matter how hard you work or how early you arrive at the arena or how good you are in the ring and I think most of the people that boo Roman Reigns would boo him regardless, they don't care if he failed or passed any tests, they just don't like him and that's that.
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