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Old 26-07-2016, 01:53
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Agreed. One marquee match per show and go for hot angles through the night. Always end on a cliffhanger. How to fill three hours though?
I'd go with having a roster of jobbers to the stars that consists of veterans signed up and some from the indie scene they'd never actually push. Two actual roster matches and one main event that goes a decent amount of time or if not ends with DQ, count out, cheating. Very very rarely job out any of these acts and change up the endings so that they end via a lesser move.

A bit old school, but people are tuning out of 50/50 booking and stop start pushing. Yet PPV aka network specials aren't engrossing because most of the matches are booked half a dozen times via tag matches, six man tags.
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Old 26-07-2016, 01:54
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graves on commentary feels so fresh

pity wwe didnt have the guts to swap cole with ranallo
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Old 26-07-2016, 01:54
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He comes across to me as somebody who is much more comfortable in a heel role, even the way he walks to the ring (as in his face rather than the arm thing) is much more cocky heel than baby face. I like his matches, he's (IMO) a great wrestler but he needs something fresh.
Yeah he can be pretty bland as a face outside of the demon stuff. Problem is if they think having him screw Reigns is going to be turning him heel.
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Old 26-07-2016, 01:55
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Really feel like Nia Jax needs more menacing music, especially if they are going to play her as a malicious monster heel.
Definitely agree with that. I know they wouldn't reuse it but I think a remixed version of William Regal's heel theme would suit her really well. I don't know where that came from but I'm sticking with it lol
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Old 26-07-2016, 01:55
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He comes across to me as somebody who is much more comfortable in a heel role, even the way he walks to the ring (as in his face rather than the arm thing) is much more cocky heel than baby face. I like his matches, he's (IMO) a great wrestler but he needs something fresh.
Easy story if he gets the Club to help him win the title with Seth then going face.
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Old 26-07-2016, 01:57
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I'd go with having a roster of jobbers to the stars that consists of veterans signed up and some from the indie scene they'd never actually push. Two actual roster matches and one main event that goes a decent amount of time or if not ends with DQ, count out, cheating. Very very rarely job out any of these acts and change up the endings so that they end via a lesser move.

A bit old school, but people are tuning out of 50/50 booking and stop start pushing. Yet PPV aka network specials aren't engrossing because most of the matches are booked half a dozen times via tag matches, six man tags.
Agree with this. Those star tag matches should be treated like marquee main events rather than perfunctory time fillers. They need need need to focus on getting over characters and angles.
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Old 26-07-2016, 01:57
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Easy story if he gets the Club to help him win the title with Seth then going face.
Oh yeah it would be a very easy turn (especially if they spread across Raw and Smackdown, and yes I'll continue to push that idea until it is blatantly clear it's not happening) and can align with AJ and the others.
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Old 26-07-2016, 01:59
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If Reigns wins this and goes to face Balor it may keep me up until the end.
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:00
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Is Jericho ever (EVVVVEEERRRRRRR) going away?
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:00
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If Reigns wins this and goes to face Balor it may keep me up until the end.
Think I would have Owens cost Balor the match in that case. Got to get some feuds set up tonight.
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:03
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Think I would have Owens cost Balor the match in that case. Got to get some feuds set up tonight.
But then we go back to Reigns vs Rollins which after the Triple Threat has no interest from me.

Wouldn't have an issue with Zayn going over either and then have Owens interfere and attack both which Balor then comes out on top of.
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:04
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Definitely agree with that. I know they wouldn't reuse it but I think a remixed version of William Regal's heel theme would suit her really well. I don't know where that came from but I'm sticking with it lol
yeah just hope the sound desk don't get confused and starts playing the Steve Regal heel classic Real Mans Man
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:05
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Really don't like this 'Balor Shock Win'/'Balor Underdog' crap they are pushing.
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:06
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Is it just me or is the jump over the top rope to clear everybody out becoming a bit over used... Seen it twice tonight
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:06
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Is it just me or is the jump over the top rope to clear everybody out becoming a bit over used... Seen it twice tonight
It's the new announce table spot
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:07
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Agree with this. Those star tag matches should be treated like marquee main events rather than perfunctory time fillers. They need need need to focus on getting over characters and angles.
A good recent example of this is Cena, Amore and Cass vs. Club last night. A good match, but they'd already faced off in a 12 man tag on Raw and a couple of singles matches. Why would anybody apart from a huge huge fan of WWE be that excited about paying to see it when it was predictable Cena would pin Styles? It's an example of them sucking the blood out of a feud rather than let it develop organically.
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:07
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But then we go back to Reigns vs Rollins which after the Triple Threat has no interest from me.

Wouldn't have an issue with Zayn going over either and then have Owens interfere and attack both which Balor then comes out on top of.
I know what you mean. I just think Owens makes sense as Balor's first proper feud because they can play on their NXT history.
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:09
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A good recent example of this is Cena, Amore and Cass vs. Club last night. A good match, but they'd already faced off in a 12 man tag on Raw and a couple of singles matches. Why would anybody apart from a huge huge fan of WWE be that excited about paying to see it when it was predictable Cena would pin Styles? It's an example of them sucking the blood out of a feud rather than let it develop organically.
Yeah, it's this weird compartmentalising thing they do where people only interact within their own feuds so we see the same thing over and over again. I see no harm in giving Cena a routine squash win over someone lower down and then an in-ring interview or something like on Nitro to advance the feud instead.
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:10
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Is it just me or is the jump over the top rope to clear everybody out becoming a bit over used... Seen it twice tonight
It's a good job AJ was drafted to SmackDown, otherwise we'd get the hat-trick
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:10
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I know what you mean. I just think Owens makes sense as Balor's first proper feud because they can play on their NXT history.
Yeah I can see what you're saying too. Maybe Zayn goes over and faces Rollins then. I just really think they've blown their Shield spunk up the wall on a B pay per view and now I'm over it sadly.

They need to start letting things build, let things sizzle. We're having what is essentially a #1 contender tournament start and conclude in 3 hours (and 20 mins probably).
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:12
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Yeah I can see what you're saying too. Maybe Zayn goes over and faces Rollins then. I just really think they've blown their Shield spunk up the wall on a B pay per view and now I'm over it sadly.

They need to start letting things build, let things sizzle. We're having what is essentially a #1 contender tournament start and conclude in 3 hours (and 20 mins probably).
Agreed.

They need to use this opportunity to flesh out characters and feuds properly I think.
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:13
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Yeah, it's this weird compartmentalising thing they do where people only interact within their own feuds so we see the same thing over and over again. I see no harm in giving Cena a routine squash win over someone lower down and then an in-ring interview or something like on Nitro to advance the feud instead.
They used to do it themselves. Wrestler A and B would be in a feud but they didn't spend four weeks fighting each other. I don't know why they stopped Wrestler A facing random Wrestler C and having Wrestler B get involved etc.

I don't understand why they made every feud face each other over and over again. Again, let it sizzle
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:13
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Why not use the Crucifix Powerbomb as Reigns finisher it's 100X better than his spear.
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:14
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the camera cuts remind me of wwe 2k series games
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Old 26-07-2016, 02:15
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Yeah, it's this weird compartmentalising thing they do where people only interact within their own feuds so we see the same thing over and over again. I see no harm in giving Cena a routine squash win over someone lower down and then an in-ring interview or something like on Nitro to advance the feud instead.
I guess their thinking is squash matches are predictable and the performers fighting their current feud is so logically it gives reason for the rematch. A pseudo-sport without a ranking system. Unfortunately it's both as predictable as a squash match and counter-productive with it.
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