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Old 02-06-2016, 09:28
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After everything he did in the past , if he must come home, shouldn't it be with his tail between his legs? He doesn't seem sorry about anything and even his general attitude in scenes away from the Beales is not one of someone who deeply regrets their past but just a cocky arrogant a**ehole to be honest. I don't know if it's the writing or the actor just doesn't understand the complexity of the character but it's certainly not how I'd imagine somebody like Steven acting when returning home for the first time after everything that happened.
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Old 02-06-2016, 09:40
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I thought he acted quite mature (except when he got angry at Ian and bluntly told him the truth about Peter's decision). when he originally came out of hospital after his breakdown he kept trying to apologise and put things right but then Stacey advised him to give the Beales time to cool off and spend time with her and Bradley instead so he did.

on his return, Steven asked Ian for 2 minutes inside to explain about Peter and offered to look after Bobby so Ian could se Jane at the hospital but other than that he more or less stayed out of the way. he spent most of his time with Lauren - it's just unfortunate that Ian walked in on them kissing.
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Old 02-06-2016, 10:11
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I find Ian to be quite loud-mouthed and immature at times. Ian's a complete and utter hypocrite! He hates Steven because of what he did to him and Jane back then, and yet Ian was protecting Bobby after he KILLED Lucy. I mean, talk about double standards. Steven should tell Ian this once he finds out. Steven comes across as someone who's well again after going through a very dark period back then.
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Old 02-06-2016, 10:54
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I find Ian to be quite loud-mouthed and immature at times. Ian's a complete and utter hypocrite! He hates Steven because of what he did to him and Jane back then, and yet Ian was protecting Bobby after he KILLED Lucy. I mean, talk about double standards. Steven should tell Ian this once he finds out. Steven comes across as someone who's well again after going through a very dark period back then.
I agree with this. Actually there are some similarities between Steven and Ben. Both stalked Ian and Phil respectively (though Steven obviously had a mental breakdown and Ben was merely malicious), both lied about Christian making a move on them (remember how when there was a fire initially nobody believed Ben due to his track record but then Patrick saw the fire and askeveryone to leave).

Ironically Ben's manslaughter of Heather allowed him to leave the square for 4 years and when he returned he managed to rebuild his life - though Shirley was naturally hostile, Luckily for Ben, Phil was with Sharon, who was univolved in the Heather situation and so more willing to reach out and build a relationship with him. Unfortunately Steven does not have as much support as Ben did given that he messed up more even then Ben and apart from Simon, David, Peter and Cindy (none of whom are in the square) has no blood relations.
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:04
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I agree with this. Actually there are some similarities between Steven and Ben. Both stalked Ian and Phil respectively (though Steven obviously had a mental breakdown and Ben was merely malicious), both lied about Christian making a move on them (remember how when there was a fire initially nobody believed Ben due to his track record but then Patrick saw the fire and askeveryone to leave).

Ironically Ben's manslaughter of Heather allowed him to leave the square for 4 years and when he returned he managed to rebuild his life - though Shirley was naturally hostile, Luckily for Ben, Phil was with Sharon, who was univolved in the Heather situation and so more willing to reach out and build a relationship with him. Unfortunately Steven does not have as much support as Ben did given that he messed up more even then Ben and apart from Simon, David, Peter and Cindy (none of whom are in the square) has no blood relations.
I agree, but I think Kathy may start to support Steven. After his speech about family to Dot and Kathy the other night, Kathy gave him a look and I think she will be the one to make Ian see that Steven has changed.
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:29
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I agree, but I think Kathy may start to support Steven. After his speech about family to Dot and Kathy the other night, Kathy gave him a look and I think she will be the one to make Ian see that Steven has changed.
That would be good to see, though Kathy was initially shocked when Ian told her Steven was back.
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:33
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That would be good to see, though Kathy was initially shocked when Ian told her Steven was back.
She was shocked, but I think hearing him say what he did and saying it so passionately that she has realised that he has grown up and deserves to be given a chance.
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:44
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She was shocked, but I think hearing him say what he did and saying it so passionately that she has realised that he has grown up and deserves to be given a chance.
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Old 02-06-2016, 11:57
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It makes sense to me, that he's been across the world and got some perspective. Family and Walford aren't the be-all and end-all. We all suspend reality when we watch EE, but really, his attitude is more realistic than a 25 year-old (or whatever he is) caring what people in Walford Market think.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:22
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He was a confused young boy with mental health problems, he has grown up now. Im glad that he acts quite smug, Ian made out like he was the cause of all the problems they have yet he supports the son that killed his daughter.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:57
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I like Steven. Even if he isn't a Beale by blood, it's nice to have a young man in the family again. I find him a much better character than Peter and always have done. Him, Ian, Jane, Kathy, Lauren and Louie would make a good set up in my opinion, although that would be hard with Peter and Lauren's history.
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Old 02-06-2016, 12:59
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Ian and Jane have been absolutely woeful parents towards Bobby. They should have gone to the police the night Lucy's death happened, but instead they have dug themselves deeper and deeper, as Bobby's behaviour has spiralled out of cotrol. I feel sorry for Bobby, but not Ian and Jane. Palming him off to a boarding school was awful!

Having said that, I do still think Ian and Jane are great characters! I hope Jane isn't leaving.
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Old 02-06-2016, 13:36
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She was shocked, but I think hearing him say what he did and saying it so passionately that she has realised that he has grown up and deserves to be given a chance.
It's also worth noting that Steven is the one that Kathy knows the best, she had nearly 10 years (excepting the couple of years he was away from London with cindy) acting as his Grandmother on a day to day basis. So she might feel closer to him than Peter or Bobby who were still very young (or not born) when she moved to SA, let alone 'died'

Re his attitude, I think in general it is just that he seems to have grown up and now be confident in his own skin so exudes a certain confidence. With Ian and Jane, he knows the history, knows he has a lot of making up to do but doesn't see the point in constantly apologizing (he did try that years ago) - he can't pretend it didn't happen but would like to show rather than tell his regret - ie provide practical support like driving to and from the Hospital, moving their things from Dots to the house and take care of Bobby as the family needs it.

He probably sees the Lauren situation as a separate thing and that maybe they haven't done anything wrong if her relationship with Peter was breaking up due to the Lucy situation. I wouldn't really agree with that, i'd say a siblings ex should always be off limits due to the trouble it would cause in the family and you'd think Steven would recognise that given the complications of his parentage but he might not see it as an issue.
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Old 02-06-2016, 14:39
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I agree with this. Actually there are some similarities between Steven and Ben. Both stalked Ian and Phil respectively (though Steven obviously had a mental breakdown and Ben was merely malicious), both lied about Christian making a move on them (remember how when there was a fire initially nobody believed Ben due to his track record but then Patrick saw the fire and askeveryone to leave).

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I think that's a bit harsh . He was teenager trapped between two conflicting emotions , hating Phil for all the crap he pulled on him and loving him as his dad . And that split him in the middle in a way . To a degree it's still there today . Flipping from wanting to suffocate Phil with a pillow to hugging him after the rampage with the digger with barely time passing between those two events .
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Old 02-06-2016, 14:46
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It's also worth noting that Steven is the one that Kathy knows the best, she had nearly 10 years (excepting the couple of years he was away from London with cindy) acting as his Grandmother on a day to day basis. So she might feel closer to him than Peter or Bobby who were still very young (or not born) when she moved to SA, let alone 'died'

Re his attitude, I think in general it is just that he seems to have grown up and now be confident in his own skin so exudes a certain confidence. With Ian and Jane, he knows the history, knows he has a lot of making up to do but doesn't see the point in constantly apologizing (he did try that years ago) - he can't pretend it didn't happen but would like to show rather than tell his regret - ie provide practical support like driving to and from the Hospital, moving their things from Dots to the house and take care of Bobby as the family needs it.

He probably sees the Lauren situation as a separate thing and that maybe they haven't done anything wrong if her relationship with Peter was breaking up due to the Lucy situation. I wouldn't really agree with that, i'd say a siblings ex should always be off limits due to the trouble it would cause in the family and you'd think Steven would recognise that given the complications of his parentage but he might not see it as an issue.
BIB That's how I see it too. It's easy to say you're sorry, not so easy to live it. On the other hand he could just be an opportunist.

I wonder if Lauren turned to Steven because she was alone far from home and had no one else to help her.
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