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ED- Boring Cain Dingle
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Mark_Washingto1
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by spunger:
“Danny Miller is another ED actor who tried and failed to make it away from ED and ended going back. Ryan Hawley is painfully wooden when trying to express emotion. He is consistently acted off the screen by the modestly talented Danny Miller. John Middleton is OK and he might be one who gets some decent supporting role work when he leaves ED. The good Corrie and Enders actors do well when they leave their soaps so there is no predudice towards soap actors. ED actors struggle because they just aren't that good.”

You're trippin, Danny Miller is one of the best actors to ever appear on a soap, no one can cry like him. You're really selling Emmerdale's actors short and I honestly can't see Ryan Thomas having more success than Danny Miller now that he's left Corrie. He's good for the soaps but I can't see him making it big.
Oldnjaded
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by spunger:
“Nice to see you again.
I was on a break until KO departed.
Dreading to think what she's going to with Corrie.”

Yo spungy one!! DS has been a lot duller without you.
Pandora.
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by spunger:
“Danny Miller is another ED actor who tried and failed to make it away from ED and ended going back. Ryan Hawley is painfully wooden when trying to express emotion. He is consistently acted off the screen by the modestly talented Danny Miller. John Middleton is OK and he might be one who gets some decent supporting role work when he leaves ED. The good Corrie and Enders actors do well when they leave their soaps so there is no predudice towards soap actors. ED actors struggle because they just aren't that good.”

Spunger! Well well well, you were proven correct! KO is/was abysmal.

Great post.
sorcha_healy27
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“You're trippin, Danny Miller is one of the best actors to ever appear on a soap, no one can cry like him. You're really selling Emmerdale's actors short and I honestly can't see Ryan Thomas having more success than Danny Miller now that he's left Corrie. He's good for the soaps but I can't see him making it big.”

All you ever mention about Danny Miller and his good acting, is in relation to his crying Mark, when ironically he's much better in light hearted scenes when he gets them..
spunger
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by lucy_marwood:
“Not many Enders or Corrie get success, I think the longer you're in a soap the harder it is to get work after because there is some prejudice ahpgainst them and also a lot of them aren't very good”

There's thousands of actors who'd love a job in a soap but let's not pretend that makes the actors in soaps good actors. Earlier this year I watched the OJ Simpson story on BBC2. The gulf in the quality of acting between something like that and a soap is enourmous. Charlotte Belamey is no Sarah Paulson that's for sure.
I take soaps for what they are. There's no need to try and big them up.
cyrilandshirley
02-06-2016
Wasn't this thread about Cain Dingle?
Mark_Washingto1
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“All you ever mention about Danny Miller and his good acting, is in relation to his crying Mark, when ironically he's much better in light hearted scenes when he gets them..”

Well I just think he's amazing at crying but he is good at light hearted stuff like the scene on the beach with Chas. He also does agnry pretty good. Really Danny Miller does it all and does it flawlessly
sorcha_healy27
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“Wasn't this thread about Cain Dingle?”

Oh yes
Oldnjaded
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“Wasn't this thread about Cain Dingle?”

Ah but that was before Spunger chose it to make his Grand Return.
cyrilandshirley
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Oh yes ”



Isn't Cain Dingle terrific.

Though really, he should just sit Belle down and give her a talking to and let her get on with it. Who your sister shags really is none of your business, no matter how disastrous it is. Maybe one day, Cain will realise. Then he can just brew up and put his feet up.
cyrilandshirley
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“Ah but that was before Spunger chose it to make his Grand Return. ”

Ah yes.

Maybe we should make a special Welcome Back Spunger thread instead.
spunger
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“You're trippin, Danny Miller is one of the best actors to ever appear on a soap, no one can cry like him. You're really selling Emmerdale's actors short and I honestly can't see Ryan Thomas having more success than Danny Miller now that he's left Corrie. He's good for the soaps but I can't see him making it big.”

Great actors are head hunted by quality production teams. Why is Danny back where he started doing the same old depressing miserable stuff over and over and earning modest money, instead of doing varied choice with high quality actors and earning lots more money? I agree about Ryan Thomas but he's hardly one of Corries best.
sorcha_healy27
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“

Isn't Cain Dingle terrific.

Though really, he should just sit Belle down and give her a talking to and let her get on with it. Who your sister shags really is none of your business, no matter how disastrous it is. Maybe one day, Cain will realise. Then he can just brew up and put his feet up.”

If Cain hadn't banged an underage school girl I'd be totally on board with him beating Dr predator to a pulp.

Dr predator showing Belle he has a PHD
CollieWobbles
02-06-2016
Cain is fabulous, amazing, brilliant, wonderful, divine, delectable and oh so doable. He is so hot it's a wonder he hasn't spontaneously combusted. His 'rough n' ready give them a good pasting' personality just make him even more desirable, long may he reign supreme in the Dales. I certainly wouldn't be complaining if he manhandled me into a barn - quite the opposite.

Originally Posted by al_capo:
“I wouldn't say the best in Emmerdale, Danny Miller, Michael Parr, Ryan Hawley and John Middleton are pretty good aswell.”

Neither of these are in the list of ED's best actors, one is a one trick tearstick pony and the other is only good at being a panto villain. The other two however I agree with you on.
cyrilandshirley
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“If Cain hadn't banged an underage school girl I'd be totally on board with him beating Dr predator to a pulp.

Dr predator showing Belle he has a PHD ”

Oops. Maybe Belle will remind him.

And he'll say "yeah, do as I say, not do as I do ... "
al_capo
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“Cain is fabulous, amazing, brilliant, wonderful, divine, delectable and oh so doable. He is so hot it's a wonder he hasn't spontaneously combusted. His 'rough n' ready give them a good pasting' personality just make him even more desirable, long may he reign supreme in the Dales. I certainly wouldn't be complaining if he manhandled me into a barn - quite the opposite.



Neither of these are in the list of ED's best actors, one is a one trick tearstick pony and the other is only good at being a panto villain. The other two however I agree with you on.”

I think Danny Miller is half decent but he is extremely overrated.
Mark_Washingto1
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by spunger:
“Great actors are head hunted by quality production teams. Why is Danny back where he started doing the same old depressing miserable stuff over and over and earning modest money, instead of doing varied choice with high quality actors and earning lots more money? I agree about Ryan Thomas but he's hardly one of Corries best.”

I think getting the so called big break from soaps has more to do with luck than acting, I look at Demi Moore and John Stamos who started out on General Hospital and made it big in Hollywood but there were actors on GH like Tony Geary who could out act them yet never made it big outside of soaps. Or more recently you Jesse Metcalfe who was horrible on Passions, one of the worst actors I've ever seen and he some how made to primetime on Desperate housewives and the Dallas reboot.
Oldnjaded
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“

Isn't Cain Dingle terrific.

Though really, he should just sit Belle down and give her a talking to and let her get on with it. Who your sister shags really is none of your business, no matter how disastrous it is. Maybe one day, Cain will realise. Then he can just brew up and put his feet up.”

The only problem with that is that if every soap character kept their sticky beaks out of everybody else's business.............well, there wouldn't actually be any soaps.
Andybear
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“All you ever mention about Danny Miller and his good acting, is in relation to his crying Mark, when ironically he's much better in light hearted scenes when he gets them..”

I've noticed that too. When Aaron is crying he's like when I chop onions! Tears, red face and no emotion (because obviously I'm not crying as such) and I don't get any emotion from Aaron.
Danny_Francis
02-06-2016
Well its all a matter of opinion really, I think Danny is rather talented and is more than capable of displaying or enacting a multitude of emotions where necessary. As for Cain, yes I like him but would agree that his character is getting a little stale now because of how he's been booked.
speedy_gonzales
02-06-2016
i have never seen the appeal of cain,he aint exacly cool,he is more roy keane than james dean.
CollieWobbles
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by spunger:
“Nice to see you again.
I was on a break until KO departed.
Dreading to think what she's going to with Corrie.”

Spunger! Long time no see Are you going to be on a break from Corrie now? I think your owed an apology on here, you were right about KO all along. She's full of sensationalist twaddle and nonsensical poppycock, her stories hold about as much water as a sieve. Unfortunately, I think the new producer will be no different.
AmyEWright
02-06-2016
I have always loved Cain but I must admit I rolled my eyes when he kidnapped Rakesh and when he interferes with Belle. Most characters have the same things to do over and over again. Holly.. Take more drugs.. Lawrence.. Have another heart attack.. Ross and Charity.. Be involved in yet another dodgy scheme.. Aaron have a whole lot more misery dumped on him.. Etc.

I think Danny Miller is great. He's just as good at the lighthearted scenes as the crying scenes. Give him more of that! I thought he was brilliant during the abuse storyline but now that's over ED should break the cycle. They really can't do another miserable storyline no matter how good he is at crying! It would just take away from all the emotional stuff that he's done before.

I actually think Debbie brings down Cain and Ross. Cain is always after someone cleaning up her mess and Ross was just ruined by the Debbie pairing. I can't even explain why! Don't take this as me hating Debbie because I really don't but her and Ross just did not work for me.

Jeff Hordley is definitely one of the best actors in the show. Michael is good - maybe recently they have gone overboard with comedy for him though. Ryan is good, I wish they'd bring out ruthless Robert a bit more. I love him with Aaron but there's no reason a bit of old Robert spark can't be brought back.. Without the OTT villain thing.
Jessica_Bobbing
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“I have always loved Cain but I must admit I rolled my eyes when he kidnapped Rakesh and when he interferes with Belle. Most characters have the same things to do over and over again. Holly.. Take more drugs.. Lawrence.. Have another heart attack.. Ross and Charity.. Be involved in yet another dodgy scheme.. Aaron have a whole lot more misery dumped on him.. Etc.

I think Danny Miller is great. He's just as good at the lighthearted scenes as the crying scenes. Give him more of that! I thought he was brilliant during the abuse storyline but now that's over ED should break the cycle. They really can't do another miserable storyline no matter how good he is at crying! It would just take away from all the emotional stuff that he's done before.

I actually think Debbie brings down Cain and Ross. Cain is always after someone cleaning up her mess and Ross was just ruined by the Debbie pairing. I can't even explain why! Don't take this as me hating Debbie because I really don't but her and Ross just did not work for me.

Jeff Hordley is definitely one of the best actors in the show. Michael is good - maybe recently they have gone overboard with comedy for him though. Ryan is good, I wish they'd bring out ruthless Robert a bit more. I love him with Aaron but there's no reason a bit of old Robert spark can't be brought back.. Without the OTT villain thing.”

BIB: I feel the same! Cain treats her like she can do no wrong, she cheated on Pete out of choice but Cain made out that she was the injured party. I know she's his daughter and everything but seeing him treat her like the bloody messiah gets really tiring after a while.

As for Ross and Debbie, I don't think he genuinely loved her tbh. He was just jealous of Pete, remember the scene when Pete told Ross her was welcome to her? Ross looked pretty annoyed. The relationship didn't have a patch on Ross and Donna. Seeing Ross act like Debbie's lap dog was awful. Hopefully he'll have moved on by the time she gets back, I wanted him with Chrissie but that's obviously not going to happen now. I liked him with Carly but that's also unlikely to happen again.
AmyEWright
02-06-2016
Originally Posted by Jessica_Bobbing:
“BIB: I feel the same! Cain treats her like she can do no wrong, she cheated on Pete out of choice but Cain made out that she was the injured party. I know she's his daughter and everything but seeing him treat her like the bloody messiah gets really tiring after a while.

As for Ross and Debbie, I don't think he genuinely loved her tbh. He was just jealous of Pete, remember the scene when Pete told Ross her was welcome to her? Ross looked pretty annoyed. The relationship didn't have a patch on Ross and Donna. Seeing Ross act like Debbie's lap dog was awful. Hopefully he'll have moved on by the time she gets back, I wanted him with Chrissie but that's obviously not going to happen now. I liked him with Carly but that's also unlikely to happen again.”

Not forgetting that Debbie told Cain to deal with Ross the night before the wedding.. Knowing full well how Cain deals with people. These days he acts like she's 'Saint Debbie' that could never possibly do any wrong. When Cain turned his back on her a few years ago it's the best he ever did, she needed to learn a lesson. Wish he'd not go running every time she clicks her fingers now.

I never bought into that Ross would be anyone's lap dog. I agree sometimes it seemed like he was trying to get one over on Pete and then other times he acted like a love sick puppy. I didn't get it. I really wished both him and Pete would walk away. I wanted Ross and Chrissie too.. I don't know who I'd put him with now. Chrissie should be with him.. Actually she should be with pretty much anyone that isn't Andy.
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