I know what you mean. He is a lot more boring now then he was years ago, but I guess that was when he was with Charity. They've made him boring now as he's settled down with Moira the farmer. I think they suit really well though. The whole Rakesh scene in the barn was abit far fetched though. All this stupid kidnapping and controlling Belle malarkey is abit annoying now! It makes me laugh how in soaps they just bash people over the head and everything's okay. They never end up dead or brain damaged!!
ED- Boring Cain Dingle
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Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“Not forgetting that Debbie told Cain to deal with Ross the night before the wedding.. Knowing full well how Cain deals with people. These days he acts like she's 'Saint Debbie' that could never possibly do any wrong. When Cain turned his back on her a few years ago it's the best he ever did, she needed to learn a lesson. Wish he'd not go running every time she clicks her fingers now.
I never bought into that Ross would be anyone's lap dog. I agree sometimes it seemed like he was trying to get one over on Pete and then other times he acted like a love sick puppy. I didn't get it. I really wished both him and Pete would walk away. I wanted Ross and Chrissie too.. I don't know who I'd put him with now. Chrissie should be with him.. Actually she should be with pretty much anyone that isn't Andy.”
“Not forgetting that Debbie told Cain to deal with Ross the night before the wedding.. Knowing full well how Cain deals with people. These days he acts like she's 'Saint Debbie' that could never possibly do any wrong. When Cain turned his back on her a few years ago it's the best he ever did, she needed to learn a lesson. Wish he'd not go running every time she clicks her fingers now.
I never bought into that Ross would be anyone's lap dog. I agree sometimes it seemed like he was trying to get one over on Pete and then other times he acted like a love sick puppy. I didn't get it. I really wished both him and Pete would walk away. I wanted Ross and Chrissie too.. I don't know who I'd put him with now. Chrissie should be with him.. Actually she should be with pretty much anyone that isn't Andy.”
Chrissie has a big revenge storyline coming up doesn't she? Most people in the show turn to Ross when they need help with anything crime related. Maybe they could pair them together through a storyline like that.
Originally Posted by Oldnjaded:
“The only problem with that is that if every soap character kept their sticky beaks out of everybody else's business.............well, there wouldn't actually be any soaps.
”
“The only problem with that is that if every soap character kept their sticky beaks out of everybody else's business.............well, there wouldn't actually be any soaps.
”
They could all sit down and have a nice brew and a chat. It'd be like 1973 in the Sugdens' kitchen.
And Cain does make a lovely brew.
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“Chrissie has a big revenge storyline coming up doesn't she? Most people in the show turn to Ross when they need help with anything crime related. Maybe they could pair them together through a storyline like that.”
“Chrissie has a big revenge storyline coming up doesn't she? Most people in the show turn to Ross when they need help with anything crime related. Maybe they could pair them together through a storyline like that.”
True, she has used his services before. It depends what she wants done. I have no idea what the revenge will be. I'm assuming it will be premeditated rather than a repeat of the heat of the moment helicopter crash. Some types of revenge Ross doesn't have the brain for.
Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“True, she has used his services before. It depends what she wants done. I have no idea what the revenge will be. I'm assuming it will be premeditated rather than a repeat of the heat of the moment helicopter crash. Some types of revenge Ross doesn't have the brain for.”
“True, she has used his services before. It depends what she wants done. I have no idea what the revenge will be. I'm assuming it will be premeditated rather than a repeat of the heat of the moment helicopter crash. Some types of revenge Ross doesn't have the brain for.”
Ross is quite smart, I remember Donna reading alist of crimes that Ross was never charged for, you cant be stupid and get away with as much as he has. He isnt Robert Sugden smart (scheming wise) but if he was forced to Im sure he could come up with something.
Although Ross is more of a in the moment type character, he doesn't do much planning he just goes with it and its worked so far.
Originally Posted by AmyEWright:
“Not forgetting that Debbie told Cain to deal with Ross the night before the wedding.. Knowing full well how Cain deals with people. These days he acts like she's 'Saint Debbie' that could never possibly do any wrong. When Cain turned his back on her a few years ago it's the best he ever did, she needed to learn a lesson. Wish he'd not go running every time she clicks her fingers now.
I never bought into that Ross would be anyone's lap dog. I agree sometimes it seemed like he was trying to get one over on Pete and then other times he acted like a love sick puppy. I didn't get it. I really wished both him and Pete would walk away. I wanted Ross and Chrissie too.. I don't know who I'd put him with now. Chrissie should be with him.. Actually she should be with pretty much anyone that isn't Andy.”
“Not forgetting that Debbie told Cain to deal with Ross the night before the wedding.. Knowing full well how Cain deals with people. These days he acts like she's 'Saint Debbie' that could never possibly do any wrong. When Cain turned his back on her a few years ago it's the best he ever did, she needed to learn a lesson. Wish he'd not go running every time she clicks her fingers now.
I never bought into that Ross would be anyone's lap dog. I agree sometimes it seemed like he was trying to get one over on Pete and then other times he acted like a love sick puppy. I didn't get it. I really wished both him and Pete would walk away. I wanted Ross and Chrissie too.. I don't know who I'd put him with now. Chrissie should be with him.. Actually she should be with pretty much anyone that isn't Andy.”
I wish Donna hadnt of died, the chemistry between the pair was brilliant imo. She was the only one that seen him as something but a thug. I loved the scenes when she used to tell him to think about his future and that he cant go on thinking the world is against him. I hope he gets his happy ending with someone else but Debbie.
Originally Posted by Jessica_Bobbing:
“Immoral, ugly, selfish, inbred piece of scum. Can't stand him. He's the biggest hypocrite ever”
“Immoral, ugly, selfish, inbred piece of scum. Can't stand him. He's the biggest hypocrite ever”
This about sums it up.
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“You have regular Cain, then younger gay crying Cain (Aaron) and younger car jacker/Jan Brady of the Dales Cain (Ross)”
“You have regular Cain, then younger gay crying Cain (Aaron) and younger car jacker/Jan Brady of the Dales Cain (Ross)”
Who is Jan Brady?
Originally Posted by Jessica_Bobbing:
“BIB: I feel the same! Cain treats her like she can do no wrong, she cheated on Pete out of choice but Cain made out that she was the injured party. I know she's his daughter and everything but seeing him treat her like the bloody messiah gets really tiring after a while.
As for Ross and Debbie, I don't think he genuinely loved her tbh. He was just jealous of Pete, remember the scene when Pete told Ross her was welcome to her? Ross looked pretty annoyed. The relationship didn't have a patch on Ross and Donna. Seeing Ross act like Debbie's lap dog was awful. Hopefully he'll have moved on by the time she gets back, I wanted him with Chrissie but that's obviously not going to happen now. I liked him with Carly but that's also unlikely to happen again.”
“BIB: I feel the same! Cain treats her like she can do no wrong, she cheated on Pete out of choice but Cain made out that she was the injured party. I know she's his daughter and everything but seeing him treat her like the bloody messiah gets really tiring after a while.
As for Ross and Debbie, I don't think he genuinely loved her tbh. He was just jealous of Pete, remember the scene when Pete told Ross her was welcome to her? Ross looked pretty annoyed. The relationship didn't have a patch on Ross and Donna. Seeing Ross act like Debbie's lap dog was awful. Hopefully he'll have moved on by the time she gets back, I wanted him with Chrissie but that's obviously not going to happen now. I liked him with Carly but that's also unlikely to happen again.”
I never got the Ross and Donna thing. To me she just wanted a bit of excitement before she died and Ross just happened to be there - it could have been anyone.
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I never got the Ross and Donna thing. To me she just wanted a bit of excitement before she died and Ross just happened to be there - it could have been anyone.”
“I never got the Ross and Donna thing. To me she just wanted a bit of excitement before she died and Ross just happened to be there - it could have been anyone.”
I think they genuinely did love each other but yeah, if she wasn't dying it probably would've been different.
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“I never got the Ross and Donna thing. To me she just wanted a bit of excitement before she died and Ross just happened to be there - it could have been anyone.”
“I never got the Ross and Donna thing. To me she just wanted a bit of excitement before she died and Ross just happened to be there - it could have been anyone.”
No she needed money for April and she knew that Ross was dodgy so she went to him. She realised that he wasnt all bad though, they did love eachother, also it couldnt of been anyone. Who would of gave her the excitement? Marlon?? Paddy?? Ashley??
Donna was just a normal police woman who thought that people like Ross were scum but when got to know him and she seen how much he cared it turned into something much more imo.
Originally Posted by Jessica_Bobbing:
“I think they genuinely did love each other but yeah, if she wasn't dying it probably would've been different.”
“I think they genuinely did love each other but yeah, if she wasn't dying it probably would've been different.”
I think if she lived and they started a normal relationship it still would of been good viewing. Ross and April scenes are great and I dont think Donna would expect Ross to be the family man like Debbie did.
I find Cain very interesting now that he's s older and calmer but still has a wild side. The Ross is a shallow character in comparison ( and I certainly don't t find the cheeky chappie stuff funny).
Originally Posted by al_capo:
“No she needed money for April and she knew that Ross was dodgy so she went to him. She realised that he wasnt all bad though, they did love eachother, also it couldnt of been anyone. Who would of gave her the excitement? Marlon?? Paddy?? Ashley??
Donna was just a normal police woman who thought that people like Ross were scum but when got to know him and she seen how much he cared it turned into something much more imo.”
“No she needed money for April and she knew that Ross was dodgy so she went to him. She realised that he wasnt all bad though, they did love eachother, also it couldnt of been anyone. Who would of gave her the excitement? Marlon?? Paddy?? Ashley??
Donna was just a normal police woman who thought that people like Ross were scum but when got to know him and she seen how much he cared it turned into something much more imo.”
I don't t think she would have looked twice at the immature idiot if she hadn't t wanted a bit of excitement. She seemed like a grown up compared to him.
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Who is Jan Brady?”
“Who is Jan Brady?”
Jan Brady of the Dales
love it 'Marcia, Marcia, Marcia!!!' At least Jan was fourteen, she had a decent excuse
Originally Posted by Andybear:
“Who is Jan Brady?”
“Who is Jan Brady?”
The middle sister in The Brady Bunch movie who was so insanely jealous of her older sister to the point that she seemed possessed. It doesn't t sound it, but it's hilarious
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“I don't t think she would have looked twice at the immature idiot if she hadn't t wanted a bit of excitement. She seemed like a grown up compared to him.”
“I don't t think she would have looked twice at the immature idiot if she hadn't t wanted a bit of excitement. She seemed like a grown up compared to him.”
Agree with that. He was what she needed at the time.
I find Ross to be a poor copy of Cain, everything about him seems to be a less gritty version with the exception of his ability to almost kill for filthy lucre. True he had a troubled childhood and one that would do damage, but is it enough to turn him into a cold blooded killer, or someone capable of torturing his own brother? Cain on the other hand had years of abuse and neglect - none of which excuses his behaviour but it's easy to see how someone brought up with violence and cruelty becomes violent and cruel. The Ross\ Donna story was a copy of Cain and Angie, but without the sinister, obsessive aspect or indeed, the chemistry. Both were softened with the arrival of a child but where Cain got a truculent teenager, Ross has a cute baby. It's s like they're re trying to brush the attempted murders under the carpet and portray him as a ' misunderstood, loveable rogue.' Not very honest storytelling or character development. Why do his parents treat him like he's s just a naughty little boy as well? It's s extremely irritating!
Originally Posted by Jessica_Bobbing:
“Ugh no. It ruined Ross' character completely.”
“Ugh no. It ruined Ross' character completely.”
Surely if he was a half decent character, one short period when he was paired with someone you don't like wouldn't ruin him? Even Laurel and Marlon have recovered to some extent from the horror that was Maurel! Maybe the relationship brought out something about the character that you didn't like and it wasn't t entirely down to Debbie?
Originally Posted by Mark_Washingto1:
“We need to start a twitter campaign to keep Ross away from Debbie...I just need to think of a good hashtag
”
“We need to start a twitter campaign to keep Ross away from Debbie...I just need to think of a good hashtag
”
Yes, this 100%! No chemistry. He was sucked into her vortex of moody, arm crossing, blandness....
Originally Posted by Walter Neff:
“I agree, he's repulsive, and yet there are so many in here lusting after him.
”
“I agree, he's repulsive, and yet there are so many in here lusting after him.
”
When hes showing a caring, softer side as a duo with Moira, I quite like Cain. Other times he's vile.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“All you ever mention about Danny Miller and his good acting, is in relation to his crying Mark, when ironically he's much better in light hearted scenes when he gets them..”
“All you ever mention about Danny Miller and his good acting, is in relation to his crying Mark, when ironically he's much better in light hearted scenes when he gets them..”
Yes! More comedic scenes for Aaron methinks!
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“
Isn't Cain Dingle terrific.
Though really, he should just sit Belle down and give her a talking to and let her get on with it. Who your sister shags really is none of your business, no matter how disastrous it is. Maybe one day, Cain will realise. Then he can just brew up and put his feet up.”
“
Isn't Cain Dingle terrific.
Though really, he should just sit Belle down and give her a talking to and let her get on with it. Who your sister shags really is none of your business, no matter how disastrous it is. Maybe one day, Cain will realise. Then he can just brew up and put his feet up.”
Rather creepy how interested in Belle's sex life Cain has become. He and Lachlan should become mates... More in common.
Originally Posted by CollieWobbles:
“Cain is fabulous, amazing, brilliant, wonderful, divine, delectable and oh so doable. He is so hot it's a wonder he hasn't spontaneously combusted
. His 'rough n' ready give them a good pasting' personality just make him even more desirable, long may he reign supreme in the Dales. I certainly wouldn't be complaining if he manhandled me into a barn - quite the opposite
.
Neither of these are in the list of ED's best actors, one is a one trick tearstick pony and the other is only good at being a panto villain. The other two however I agree with you on.”
“Cain is fabulous, amazing, brilliant, wonderful, divine, delectable and oh so doable. He is so hot it's a wonder he hasn't spontaneously combusted
. His 'rough n' ready give them a good pasting' personality just make him even more desirable, long may he reign supreme in the Dales. I certainly wouldn't be complaining if he manhandled me into a barn - quite the opposite.Neither of these are in the list of ED's best actors, one is a one trick tearstick pony and the other is only good at being a panto villain. The other two however I agree with you on.”
Alright, alright.... Don't cream your drawers.... Jeez.
John Middleton's a great actor, at times you forget Ashley's not real and just see a man struggling with dementia.
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“The middle sister in The Brady Bunch movie who was so insanely jealous of her older sister to the point that she seemed possessed. It doesn't t sound it, but it's hilarious”
“The middle sister in The Brady Bunch movie who was so insanely jealous of her older sister to the point that she seemed possessed. It doesn't t sound it, but it's hilarious
”
Thank you, I haven't seen that film - I might take a look at it
I like Cain, he has depth of character, and the actor plays him well. It wilt be interesting to watch the outcome of the Dr. and Belle story now that Cain knows about it
Ross is a silly mummy's boy, playing at being a baddie. His Bonnie 'n Clyde storyline with Donna was pure pantomime. I wish it had been him that died, not Donna; Donna could have become an integral part of Emmerdale again.
Ross is a silly mummy's boy, playing at being a baddie. His Bonnie 'n Clyde storyline with Donna was pure pantomime. I wish it had been him that died, not Donna; Donna could have become an integral part of Emmerdale again.
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“I find Cain very interesting now that he's s older and calmer but still has a wild side. The Ross is a shallow character in comparison ( and I certainly don't t find the cheeky chappie stuff funny).”
“I find Cain very interesting now that he's s older and calmer but still has a wild side. The Ross is a shallow character in comparison ( and I certainly don't t find the cheeky chappie stuff funny).”
I agree with this and your earlier posts.
It's no secret that I don't like Ross, but I think that there's a problem with all of James Barton's family, with the possible exception of Finn, and that's that they're not very well integrated into the village and have limited, and quite often not very credible, interaction with the other characters (eg the rather clunky involvement of Pete & Ross with Holly's latest drug incident).
Ross has done some truly terrible things and it's high time for him to receive his (condign) punishment. Emma has done some pretty bad things too - she needs her come-uppance as well. Pete has, at least, received his punishment.
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“I find Ross to be a poor copy of Cain, everything about him seems to be a less gritty version with the exception of his ability to almost kill for filthy lucre. True he had a troubled childhood and one that would do damage, but is it enough to turn him into a cold blooded killer, or someone capable of torturing his own brother? Cain on the other hand had years of abuse and neglect - none of which excuses his behaviour but it's easy to see how someone brought up with violence and cruelty becomes violent and cruel. The Ross\ Donna story was a copy of Cain and Angie, but without the sinister, obsessive aspect or indeed, the chemistry. Both were softened with the arrival of a child but where Cain got a truculent teenager, Ross has a cute baby. It's s like they're re trying to brush the attempted murders under the carpet and portray him as a ' misunderstood, loveable rogue.' Not very honest storytelling or character development. Why do his parents treat him like he's s just a naughty little boy as well? It's s extremely irritating!”
“I find Ross to be a poor copy of Cain, everything about him seems to be a less gritty version with the exception of his ability to almost kill for filthy lucre. True he had a troubled childhood and one that would do damage, but is it enough to turn him into a cold blooded killer, or someone capable of torturing his own brother? Cain on the other hand had years of abuse and neglect - none of which excuses his behaviour but it's easy to see how someone brought up with violence and cruelty becomes violent and cruel. The Ross\ Donna story was a copy of Cain and Angie, but without the sinister, obsessive aspect or indeed, the chemistry. Both were softened with the arrival of a child but where Cain got a truculent teenager, Ross has a cute baby. It's s like they're re trying to brush the attempted murders under the carpet and portray him as a ' misunderstood, loveable rogue.' Not very honest storytelling or character development. Why do his parents treat him like he's s just a naughty little boy as well? It's s extremely irritating!”
I knew you would get the violins out for Cain.
But at least you acknowledge that he is a scumbag.
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