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Old 04-06-2016, 17:26
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I honestly didn't think Sam Womack would still be on the show after she was only meant to be returning for Six months in September 2013, but Ronnie is still on screens and after the actress has claimed she missed the show a lot during her 2 years away, I think she could even be in the show long term, which is great as I really like the character of Ronnie and think Sam is a great actress.

The problem is, I don't feel like the actress has been able to show off her acting talent a lot since she returned. During the years 2007-2011, Ronnie was one of the show's key characters and Sam's acting was outstanding. Her acting these days is ok for soap standards, but it feels like she is putting in no effort and I can't make out wether that is down to the writing or the actress just being in it for the pay cheque.

Ronnie hasn't really been given any emotional storylines in the way Kat, Stacey, Linda, Jane, Shirley, Carol, etc... Have during DTC's reign, and I can't think of any stand out performances from the actress since her return. I don't thinks she has been put forward for any awards either in the past few years, whereas most of the female cast have.

I think it's such a shame and a real waste of talent. I hope Ronnie is given some more meaty storylines under SOC. The current Andy storyline could provide that maybe.

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Old 04-06-2016, 17:29
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I always think she looks like she can't be bothered putting in the effort and that is down to her and the writers, She should put the effort in but maybe thinks the writing is poor

I suppose she might just be happy to be in regular work, Pretty secure job that she has
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Old 04-06-2016, 17:31
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She has felt a spare part but maybe the character needed this time to give the character a rest. Like you say hopeful Andy Flynn will revive her. I hate her relationship with Roxy Mitchell though.
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Old 04-06-2016, 17:33
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Too much botox.
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Old 04-06-2016, 17:35
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The plots they have thrown at her don't make any sense so I don't blame her. I like Sam though. The best Ronnie moment we had since she came back is when she took Phil out of the Albert when Vincent was trying to set him up and strode out just before the police cars came storming in. It was like something out of a film and very nicely done!
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Old 04-06-2016, 17:37
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Sam has looked bored for a long time now. Her character goes around in circles. So What do they do. pair her with boring Jack. I think Ronnie has done too much now that the character can't really get away with it. Eventually it will come back and bite her. We were promised this big thing with Vincent who supposedly was going to challenger her and bring her down and he's just a soft teddy bear. She does need someone who isn't a pushover to put her in her place. Sadly Andy probably isn't that person either. Wish he was someone who knows a lot about her and was working with someone but he will be playing happy families with her soon enough, either that be sent away or put in the boot of a car. Then back to playing "she's my sista" with Roxy. Like I said round in circles
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Old 04-06-2016, 17:37
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She's always been a terrible actress. She only got her early roles because of her looks.
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Old 04-06-2016, 17:37
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EastEnders is extremely lucky to have an actress of her calibre. Too good to lose.
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Old 04-06-2016, 17:49
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I didn't realise she had any talent.
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Old 04-06-2016, 20:43
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She's lazy. She seriously doesn't even bother to act. But having seen her in other roles, she has never been a good actress anyway. She's been very lucky to have managed the roles she has had over the last 2 decades because she is never out of work. She's always doing something. Both her and Nigel Harman spoiled Mount Pleasant.

A friend of the family had the unfortunate pleasure of seeing her in Grease and South Pacific and said she was atrocious. She was so bad in South pacific that they walked out.
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Old 04-06-2016, 21:07
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She's always been a terrible actress. She only got her early roles because of her looks.
I've always thought Glynis Barber when she was younger looks pretty much the same as Samantha Womack.
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Old 04-06-2016, 21:45
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Samantha Womack is great when she's given good material but ever since Ronnie's coma I felt like she is bored in her role. Ronnie was meant to be portrayed as cold but Sam just seems bored of the repetitive scenes. However this is probably down to the writing - Roxy sleeping with another one of her husbands didn't help.
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Old 04-06-2016, 22:11
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Given the right material Sam can deliver but I feel like she is now a B team player behind Stacey, Every single Carter, Phil, Ian, etc... So she never seems to get a decent storyline unless its a ridiculous one. Every time there is potential the writers ruin it like Ronnie and Charlie and the Coma.

She is better than to play second fiddle to Mick, Linda, Jonny, Lee, Babe, Shirley etc...
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Old 04-06-2016, 22:25
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I liked it when she was Phil's 'right hand man'. Now that he has Sharon she no longer plays a central role in the family and seems adrift. She only has scenes with Jack and Roxy.
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Old 04-06-2016, 22:26
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Given the right material Sam can deliver but I feel like she is now a B team player behind Stacey, Every single Carter, Phil, Ian, etc... So she never seems to get a decent storyline unless its a ridiculous one. Every time there is potential the writers ruin it like Ronnie and Charlie and the Coma.

She is better than to play second fiddle to Mick, Linda, Jonny, Lee, Babe, Shirley etc...
Have you ever liked the Carter's?
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Old 04-06-2016, 22:36
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Have you ever liked the Carter's?
That would be a 'no' ever since they were first announced by DS.
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Old 04-06-2016, 22:39
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I liked it when she was Phil's 'right hand man'. Now that he has Sharon she no longer plays a central role in the family and seems adrift. She only has scenes with Jack and Roxy.
Yeah it works yet they seem to want this on going together/split thing with Phil and Sharon. Does anyone care if they are together/apart anymore? I gave up in the 1990's
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Old 04-06-2016, 22:59
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It's mediocre writing
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Old 04-06-2016, 23:25
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I honestly don't understand how you can label her a 'lazy' actress for her performances. What is lazy about them?
It just seems to me that any impression she gives that she may be bored is the way she is supposed to play the character - emotionless, detached, cold etc.

I completely agree that she no longer gets the chance to show her acting capabilities anymore. Her storylines nowadays simply don't allow for the same emotions that her original 2007-11 arc allowed her to play. Hence a difference in her performances.

I am a massive fan of Sam and when given the chance, she knocks it out of the park. Her performances in the Danielle reveal, rape episodes, baby swap are clear evidence of this.

The thing is, Ronnie has changed unrecognisably from the character she once was in her hay day and I will always resent the people who sadly made that happen.

The Ronnie of 07-11 constantly carried the show and provided EE with some of the most memorable and controversial material of those times. For me, it's a massive shame that she is no longer regarded as one of the show's leading ladies, and probably never will be again.
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Old 04-06-2016, 23:57
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Given the right material Sam can deliver but I feel like she is now a B team player behind Stacey, Every single Carter, Phil, Ian, etc... So she never seems to get a decent storyline unless its a ridiculous one. Every time there is potential the writers ruin it like Ronnie and Charlie and the Coma.

She is better than to play second fiddle to Mick, Linda, Jonny, Lee, Babe, Shirley etc...
It'a interesting you think that. I see Ronnie as one of the more primary characters. It's also interesting how you see Ronnie as behind Stacey, as I feel before Stacey's postpartum psychosis storyline we were seeing the same sort of stuff with Lacey Turner's acting. It just proves they need to be given good material to show their acting ability, and Sam Womack hasn't had the chance to do this then. Gangster Ronnie failed epically in the long run. They could have shown Ronnie struggle with her recovery from the crash, but like Jack, she was fine after a few weeks of being out of hospital. Seeing her struggle with her injuries and struggle to be a parent to Matthew after wanting a baby for so long would have been an interesting direction, but no, we were treated to a silly love triangle and months of rubbish involving Vincent.
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Old 04-06-2016, 23:59
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I honestly don't understand how you can label her a 'lazy' actress for her performances. What is lazy about them?
It just seems to me that any impression she gives that she may be bored is the way she is supposed to play the character - emotionless, detached, cold etc.

I completely agree that she no longer gets the chance to show her acting capabilities anymore. Her storylines nowadays simply don't allow for the same emotions that her original 2007-11 arc allowed her to play. Hence a difference in her performances.

I am a massive fan of Sam and when given the chance, she knocks it out of the park. Her performances in the Danielle reveal, rape episodes, baby swap are clear evidence of this.

The thing is, Ronnie has changed unrecognisably from the character she once was in her hay day and I will always resent the people who sadly made that happen.

The Ronnie of 07-11 constantly carried the show and provided EE with some of the most memorable and controversial material of those times. For me, it's a massive shame that she is no longer regarded as one of the show's leading ladies, and probably never will be again.
Some fair points to be honest. Ronnie deserves a big storyline of her own. She is one of the best characters in the show.
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Old 05-06-2016, 00:46
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It'a interesting you think that. I see Ronnie as one of the more primary characters. It's also interesting how you see Ronnie as behind Stacey, as I feel before Stacey's postpartum psychosis storyline we were seeing the same sort of stuff with Lacey Turner's acting. It just proves they need to be given good material to show their acting ability, and Sam Womack hasn't had the chance to do this then. Gangster Ronnie failed epically in the long run. They could have shown Ronnie struggle with her recovery from the crash, but like Jack, she was fine after a few weeks of being out of hospital. Seeing her struggle with her injuries and struggle to be a parent to Matthew after wanting a baby for so long would have been an interesting direction, but no, we were treated to a silly love triangle and months of rubbish involving Vincent.
Biggest mistake TPTB ever made was some how completely forgetting the fact that Ronnie's whole character arc focused on her longing for a child. She finally gets her heart's desire and for one and a half years all we have heard is 'can you look after Matthew for me' !!!!!
There was so much potential there. She was already becoming paranoid about the Roxy/Charlie situation after she got out of hospital. This should have developed further into becoming paranoid about Matthew's health after what happened to James, or as you say, struggling to bond with the baby she always longed for.
As much as she is my favourite character and just about the only thing that keeps me watching this show, if she is going to continue as she is now,I will always maintain the wish that she was killed off in the NYD car crash. It would have been the most perfect irony - she finally gets her baby, but doesn't make it herself.
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Old 05-06-2016, 01:30
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Never really been a fan of Ronnie and I've felt that Samantha was phoning it in since her return but this week I did get some emotion in her reactions to Roxy, but Ronnie is no longer a powerhouse character.
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Old 05-06-2016, 03:29
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It'a interesting you think that. I see Ronnie as one of the more primary characters. It's also interesting how you see Ronnie as behind Stacey, as I feel before Stacey's postpartum psychosis storyline we were seeing the same sort of stuff with Lacey Turner's acting. It just proves they need to be given good material to show their acting ability, and Sam Womack hasn't had the chance to do this then. Gangster Ronnie failed epically in the long run. They could have shown Ronnie struggle with her recovery from the crash, but like Jack, she was fine after a few weeks of being out of hospital. Seeing her struggle with her injuries and struggle to be a parent to Matthew after wanting a baby for so long would have been an interesting direction, but no, we were treated to a silly love triangle and months of rubbish involving Vincent.
I feel they missed a mark here too. She would be one of the most believable to have suffered PTSD post Matthew after being in a coma. ie. have her convinced he wasn't her baby, convinced he'd died like the others. I also felt that would have been a better ctalyst to then have Ronnie lose the villain arc (like they have done with the return of Jack). I would even understand that...that Ronnie lost control and things got out of hand as Jack wasn't there as he was always the one to keep her in check/ understand her. But I do think it's good she is befriending the likes of Honey, Sharon etc... and everyone has been wanting that for a while. Given the gradual build up in this Andy story, it is clearly looking to be a "big storyline" or they wouldn't have had all these twists and turns over a period of time. And Ronnie needs to be happy, normal so that when this does near it's climax we will see full impact. The question is what type of revenge does Andy want...does he want her dead, to see her suffer, to take someone from her? He's playing a very calculated game here and has had perfect access to do some damage, but hasn't. I'm not sure he'd harm Matthew as that is Danielle's brother and I'm not sure Eastenders would go there. Or does he actually want Ronnie in some capacity around as some sort of "reminder" of Danielle. At the end of the day, Ronnie didn't kill Danielle, Janine did so would make more sense he'd target Janine than Ronnie if looking to kill her. The fact he is befriending Stacey too appears he wants to know more about her too :s
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