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Kate Oates is apparently lining up, "Big stunts" for Corrie...
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http://metro.co.uk/2016/06/04/carnag...tunts-5924354/ Do you think this is a good idea? Or not?... |
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No, getting the characters axed that are not needed and bringing in relevant, good actors is paramount first. She also needs to bring back characters she and the viewers are interested in and revive forgotten friendships. Resting or giving big characters a new direction is needed to. THEN she can blow up the set to gain viewers.
Character interaction could be a priority to and some new writers... |
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It all depends on the stunt itself really and how big it is.
The last few have been particularly disappointing. In fact, the last amazing stunt was the tram crash. We're going to need something that uses a lot of characters and isn't over within 2 episodes. Both the Rovers & Victoria Court fire only lasted 2 episodes yet if it is dragged across a whole week, it could be amazing- given it uses the right characters. We need something different to just the basic fire too, the minibus crash last year had so much potential with it being on location and all yet it was seemingly disappointing and was over within a matter of episodes. The one thing that Kate Oates lacked in her stunts during Emmerdale was an aftermath and this is what could be a downhill side to any stunts in Corrie. Corrie is well known for its community based characters and them all pulling together to restore the street back would be great. Not only that but we don't want the same characters involved in the stunt as always ie. Tracy. Get the whole street involved but from now on don't publicise who is leaving! If we see that John Smith is leaving and then John Smith is trapped in a stunt, we know they are going to die. If she chooses the right plot and characters and is careful with her aftermaths and spoilers, it could be really successful. |
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I'm not sure wether I read the article wrong, but where does it say that there are going to be stunts?
![]() As for the question, no. Stunts do nothing for a soap. What iconic soap storyline involves a stunt other than the Tram Crash (Which itself wasn't really a storyline anyway?). Real, human Drama is what makes a soap interesting and gets people talking. Stunts are ok every now and again, but relying on them isn't a wise move in my opinion. Stuart Blackburn has blew up Victoria Courts, had a dozen car crashes and is responsible for the woeful mini bus crash. None of them made an impact and most people have now forgot they even took place. And I'm not just talking about the residents. ![]() ![]()
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It all depends on the stunt itself really and how big it is.
The last few have been particularly disappointing. In fact, the last amazing stunt was the tram crash. We're going to need something that uses a lot of characters and isn't over within 2 episodes. Both the Rovers & Victoria Court fire only lasted 2 episodes yet if it is dragged across a whole week, it could be amazing- given it uses the right characters. We need something different to just the basic fire too, the minibus crash last year had so much potential with it being on location and all yet it was seemingly disappointing and was over within a matter of episodes. The one thing that Kate Oates lacked in her stunts during Emmerdale was an aftermath and this is what could be a downhill side to any stunts in Corrie. Corrie is well known for its community based characters and them all pulling together to restore the street back would be great. Not only that but we don't want the same characters involved in the stunt as always ie. Tracy. Get the whole street involved but from now on don't publicise who is leaving! If we see that John Smith is leaving and then John Smith is trapped in a stunt, we know they are going to die. If she chooses the right plot and characters and is careful with her aftermaths and spoilers, it could be really successful. |
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I'm not sure about this, whilst stunts sound good they need to be utilised properly so it's not about the stunt it's about the characters in it. I do think if Corrie do stunts somebody needs to be killed in them, in the minibus crash and the crash that happened during BGT week they could have killed somebody off but to no avail.
Corrie do stunts pretty well actually, as does Kate Oates. I loved the Emmerdale Helicopter Crash as viewers were speculating what this huge stunt was and they said what was going to happen the week before it played out and this made it exciting. I also liked how the stunt put several storylines together i.e. it was Chrissie torching Robert's car that made the helicopter crash into Pete and Debbie's wedding reception, her and Ross's affair was exposed and it killed off Ruby and Val. It was all really exciting and gripping and it was done well. If Corrie had a stunt that had the same formula applied it would provide some excellent drama imo. Like I said, Corrie do the actual stunts pretty well but they need a decent build up and a half decent aftermath to make them complete. Not an episode or two build up then forgetting it happened the minute it's over with. |
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We need more cunning stunts on CS.
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I'm not sure wether I read the article wrong, but where does it say that there are going to be stunts?
![]() As for the question, no. Stunts do nothing for a soap. What iconic soap storyline involves a stunt other than the Tram Crash (Which itself wasn't really a storyline anyway?). Real, human Drama is what makes a soap interesting and gets people talking. Stunts are ok every now and again, but relying on them isn't a wise move in my opinion. Stuart Blackburn has blew up Victoria Courts, had a dozen car crashes and is responsible for the woeful mini bus crash. None of them made an impact and most people have now forgot they even took place. And I'm not just talking about the residents. ![]() ![]() ![]() I agree when you say none of the stunts made an impact over the last few years. That's the problem with the majority of soap stunts nowadays, especially in Hollyoaks. |
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I'm not sure about this, whilst stunts sound good they need to be utilised properly so it's not about the stunt it's about the characters in it. I do think if Corrie do stunts somebody needs to be killed in them, in the minibus crash and the crash that happened during BGT week they could have killed somebody off but to no avail.
Corrie do stunts pretty well actually, as does Kate Oates. I loved the Emmerdale Helicopter Crash as viewers were speculating what this huge stunt was and they said what was going to happen the week before it played out and this made it exciting. I also liked how the stunt put several storylines together i.e. it was Chrissie torching Robert's car that made the helicopter crash into Pete and Debbie's wedding reception, her and Ross's affair was exposed and it killed off Ruby and Val. It was all really exciting and gripping and it was done well. If Corrie had a stunt that had the same formula applied it would provide some excellent drama imo. Like I said, Corrie do the actual stunts pretty well but they need a decent build up and a half decent aftermath to make them complete. Not an episode or two build up then forgetting it happened the minute it's over with. |
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Totally disagree about the ED helicopter stunt. Looked like cheap CGI and aftermath was dreadfully handled.
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Totally disagree about the ED helicopter stunt. Looked like cheap CGI and aftermath was dreadfully handled.
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No no NOOOOO!!
If this is true ( a big if given the source) this is exactly what I feared from Kate Oates!! Blowing up half the Street & killing off characters every five minutes may possibly pull in a few extra viewers for a couple of episodes, then afterwards the show will still be in the same sorry state but minus a couple of characters!! If this is the direction Oates wants to take the show she will alienate more regular viewets than the extra few she gains imo!! It's just not what Corrie is or ever has been about!! |
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I hope she is gonna bring comedy as well as drama.
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No, getting the characters axed that are not needed and bringing in relevant, good actors is paramount first. She also needs to bring back characters she and the viewers are interested in and revive forgotten friendships. Resting or giving big characters a new direction is needed to. THEN she can blow up the set to gain viewers.
Character interaction could be a priority to and some new writers... |
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Stunts are really not all that and It's not something that Corrie really needs as a factor to improve.
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Stunts are really not all that and It's not something that Corrie really needs as a factor to improve.
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We don't need stunts. We need engaging characters and compelling stories.
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I voted yes - stunts bring many stories together, and give opportunities for more to be created. As long as they are done right, it is worth it. It brings in viewers for the added drama in the hope their favourite characters are not being killed off.
Take the helicopter crash in Emmerdale last year which Kate Oates was part of. She brought together many stories including Debbie and Ross' affair exposed at the wedding reception, Val's plan to cheat death, but the stunt was caused by Chrissie's revenge on Robert. I was gripped all week. As for the recent stunts in Corrie - the crash into the Platts, Victoria Court fire and the minibus crash - they are all over within an episode or two. |
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The problem with Stunts in Corrie is, basically you are only working on a Street, where as in Emmerdale, you got the whole village, and the dales to work with, unless Corrie done more shoots, away from the Street, you are very limited.
A lot of the Corrie stunts, have been bottom end of the street, around the Corner Shop etc. Personally, I would plan a Storyline which would get rid of the Medical Centre, as there is no uses for it anymore. |
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Cast is not priority. Production is. The show desperately needs restructuring from the top down. You get the right people with the right ideas and the talent to back it up, the rest will come.
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It sounds good but even though the storylines will be better, the scripts may still be awful. If it's the same writers working with KO then surely they're still going to have cheesy lines. The mini bus crash was a big stunt and was supposed to be worth waiting for and what a disaster it was. I don't see how big stunts and better storylines are going to make Corrie better unless they change the people who put it onto paper!
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It's a good way to clear out all the deadwood, so would be good to see a big stunt with a realistic mortality rate for once.
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I would only accept a stunt if long-time stale characters like Fiz and Sean are killed off as part of it. They're generally vile people too so it would be comeuppance in a way.
Otherwise no. The helicopter crash in Emmerdale was a needless add-on to an affair reveal and the aftermath was appalling. I still say killing Val, powerful though her final scene was, was short-sighted and something that will be seen as a mistake in years to come. Stunts aren't really Corrie. I never got why having the mother of all stunts for the 50th was seen as a fitting celebration. |
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She needs to do them a lot better than she managed to do at Emmerdale. With the helicopter crash, the week itself was strong and kept me griped. But I didn't like the build up, I would rather they allowed the various storylines that collided together that week play out at their own pace rather than being truncated so that they could meet at this one point, it was all too contrived and the aftermath as has been mentioned before was a appalling, there was none. Not one shot of the wreaked church hall to make it feel like something had really gone wrong, an off camera clean up involving mostly extras, the culprit Chrissie confessed immediately and then promptly disappeared for a month to recuperate at her sisters (great drama that Kate) It might as well not have happened, for all the impact it made on the characters.
If she can learn from those mistakes, have a less contrived lead in, a good stunt and then a strong aftermath that gets across that what happened has made an impact on the community, then it will do Corrie good as they can pick up viewers who may tune in for the big event and then decide to stick around. But they are a sticking plaster, she would be better looking at where the problems lie with the show, why viewers have tuned out and fix that, or else no one will stick around once the dust on the stunt settles. |
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She needs to do them a lot better than she managed to do at Emmerdale. With the helicopter crash, the week itself was strong and kept me griped. But I didn't like the build up, I would rather they allowed the various storylines that collided together that week play out at their own pace rather than being truncated so that they could meet at this one point, it was all too contrived and the aftermath as has been mentioned before was a appalling, there was none. Not one shot of the wreaked church hall to make it feel like something had really gone wrong, an off camera clean up involving mostly extras, the culprit Chrissie confessed immediately and then promptly disappeared for a month to recuperate at her sisters (great drama that Kate) It might as well not have happened, for all the impact it made on the characters.
If she can learn from those mistakes, have a less contrived lead in, a good stunt and then a strong aftermath that gets across that what happened has made an impact on the community, then it will do Corrie good as they can pick up viewers who may tune in for the big event and then decide to stick around. But they are a sticking plaster, she would be better looking at where the problems lie with the show, why viewers have tuned out and fix that, or else no one will stick around once the dust on the stunt settles. |
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