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Old 10-06-2016, 12:55
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She doesnt look the cleaning type to me...walking around in an array of different coats with a baby on her hip. Who watches the baby while they work...? looks like a death trap for a small child.
I presume her mother does - although I havn't seen the wife actually do much 'work'.
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Old 10-06-2016, 12:59
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I was thinking along the lines of one of those old cesspits that preceded the fosse system...
That's it exactly. I think we had ours emptied, filled it with rubble and left it - it wasn't in the way so we just covered it over again and the one existing pipe from the house was capped.

Then in 2006 the Mairie told us we HAD to install a fosse, no ifs or buts or 'only if you can afford to'...we had to borrow the money to get it done. The place un-sellable without it.
It's all changed a bit (are you surprised?! ) Properties are still sold with non-conforming fosses and the new owners are told they must put in a new fosse to the current regulations. But the mairies seem very relaxed about when that should be - around here, I don't know of anyone that has been forced to have the work undertaken and it's all very well for the mairie or whoever to say 'borrow' the money but - as you'll know - banks here are careful about lending and borrowing may not be possible.

I think part of the difficulty is the authorities cannot enforce the regulations across the board. The elderly in rural France can't afford new fosses - this applies to our neighbour - in her 80s, survives on a small pension from her late husband, etc. Having a fosse put in would wipe out her income for about 3 years. She's an ideal person to receive a subvention from the state... but the state doesn't want to take on the responsibility of upgrading the sewage arrangements for all the income-challenged elderly in rural France so doesn't enforce the regulations for anyone. IIrc, there was a 2012 deadline for fosses to conform... yeah, right.
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Old 10-06-2016, 13:02
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And wanting to start cleaning while they were trying to drill through 3' thick walls!
This does happen. I interpret it as someone not being able to get to grips with the enormity of a big renovation.

As they can't understand how heating, pipes, hot water, cisterns, waste, electrics, plumbing projects will happen or their timescales... they focus on what they do understand which is... cleaning, decorating, making cushions and curtains, hanging a picture...
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Old 10-06-2016, 13:15
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When David & Anne went off to Slovakia to renovate that massive Château in A Place In Slovakia they had no end of trouble from the authorities making sure they didn't touch anything of historical importance.

So what MadBetty said about the local Mairie is spot on. They'd be all over the place like a swarm of bees.

Unbelievable that the waste from the toilet was going directly into the moat!
what else do you think they would have done with it in the 16th century?

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Old 10-06-2016, 13:19
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what else do you think they would have done with it in the 16th century?

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You think that toilet was installed in the 16th century?
The Château was last lived in during the mid 1970s. Surely it had been updated since the 16th century.

Besides, this has already been explained up-thread.
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Old 10-06-2016, 23:38
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Straker dude, get back online here, this thread is being taken over by plumber/planning official poindexters.

Wonder how randy old Dick and his eyebrowless latest missus hooked up ?
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Old 12-06-2016, 07:43
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She looks like hard work. I reckon it takes her all morning to draw her eyebrows on.
Yep, I can't see her living there for long, and by that I mean months. Complete mis-match, but that's what TV is about these days.
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Old 12-06-2016, 15:08
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That's it exactly. I think we had ours emptied, filled it with rubble and left it - it wasn't in the way so we just covered it over again and the one existing pipe from the house was capped.

It's all changed a bit (are you surprised?! ) Properties are still sold with non-conforming fosses and the new owners are told they must put in a new fosse to the current regulations. But the mairies seem very relaxed about when that should be - around here, I don't know of anyone that has been forced to have the work undertaken and it's all very well for the mairie or whoever to say 'borrow' the money but - as you'll know - banks here are careful about lending and borrowing may not be possible.

I think part of the difficulty is the authorities cannot enforce the regulations across the board. The elderly in rural France can't afford new fosses - this applies to our neighbour - in her 80s, survives on a small pension from her late husband, etc. Having a fosse put in would wipe out her income for about 3 years. She's an ideal person to receive a subvention from the state... but the state doesn't want to take on the responsibility of upgrading the sewage arrangements for all the income-challenged elderly in rural France so doesn't enforce the regulations for anyone. IIrc, there was a 2012 deadline for fosses to conform... yeah, right.
I happen to know a couple who were at a loss at to how to afford to comply with the new law - they invited their Maire over for a gastronomique 'bon repas' complemented by excellent wine and the resulting assurance that M. Le Maire would adopt a conveniently muddled comprehension of the deadline...

A strategy that would only ever work in France
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Old 12-06-2016, 19:09
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Straker dude, get back online here, this thread is being taken over by plumber/planning official poindexters.
Fear not! Je suis là.

Need to see some explanation of where the money's coming from this week otherwise it's like Homes by the Sea - Property porn for the well-off.

....

Better to sell that wallpaper surely to a museum/gallery to fund the rest of the work? Or is that too practical for Angel when she could use it to turn the walls into a scrapbook instead?
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Old 12-06-2016, 19:36
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I laugh how the narrator calls her Angel and Dick calls her Angela
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Old 12-06-2016, 19:39
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Jeez! She can't even put wallpaper on straight! Explains the eyebrows.

Massive cracks in the turrets. A metaphor?
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Old 12-06-2016, 19:46
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Where did they get the extra money from
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Old 12-06-2016, 19:48
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Yes, far better to build a helter-skelter than do the basics! Think how much money and time he could save if he got rid of her!

Where did they get the extra money from
Tracy-Anne told us he went off to do a paying job elsewhere. Bit vague but I suspect the real details would reveal what a sham the whole endeavour is.
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Old 12-06-2016, 19:58
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Poor old Dick looks f###ed
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Old 12-06-2016, 19:59
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Yes, far better to build a helter-skelter than do the basics! Think how much money and time he could save if he got rid of her!



Tracy-Anne told us he went off to do a paying job elsewhere. Bit vague but I suspect the real details would reveal what a sham the whole endeavour is.
It gets more ludicrous by the minute.
Those kitchen units look top notch and they had a professional in to fit them?
They are spending a fortune, way beyond what we are being led to believe.
That room the parents are renovating too....I just don't believe those two have brought it back into that clean, ivy free state that they showed. I noticed freshly plastered bits of wall in there too.
It's bollox!
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Old 12-06-2016, 20:01
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It gets more ludicrous by the minute.
Those kitchen units look top notch and they had a professional in to fit them?
They are spending a fortune,, way beyond what we are being led to believe.
That room the parents are renovating too....I just don't believe those two have brought it back into that clean, ivy free room that they showed. I notice freshly plastered bits of wall in there too.
It's bollox!
I didn't like the kitchen units at all
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Old 12-06-2016, 20:47
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I laugh how the narrator calls her Angel and Dick calls her Angela
Well spotted. I was wondering who Angela was.
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Old 12-06-2016, 21:02
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I'm watching on +1. The place they want to live is a desert in France, No-one lives there (except Brits who find it cheap). These places are sold by the French who have inherited them. Most of them will live in Paris and will have a home by the sea in fashionable coastal resorts.
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Old 12-06-2016, 21:29
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I love how the colours make this look an ideal place to live, It's miles from civilisation....
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Old 12-06-2016, 21:44
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Wonder how randy old Dick and his eyebrowless latest missus hooked up ?
I googled them, they have the same agent apparently.

Angel Adoree, she was on Dragons Den, Theo and Grumpy Woman invested in her Vintage Patisserie.
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Old 12-06-2016, 21:52
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Dick is heavily invested in her vintage patisserie. Ooh, matron etc..
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Old 12-06-2016, 22:14
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They're offering fishing in the moat. Anyone? Thought not.
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Old 12-06-2016, 22:18
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Old 13-06-2016, 04:15
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I googled them, they have the same agent apparently.

Angel Adoree, she was on Dragons Den, Theo and Grumpy Woman invested in her Vintage Patisserie.
Thanks for the micro-celeb matchmaking information. With two reality-telly limpets, one can only wonder what the kids will turn out like. Rylan with a moustache perhaps ?
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Old 13-06-2016, 04:21
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I'm watching on +1. The place they want to live is a desert in France, No-one lives there (except Brits who find it cheap). These places are sold by the French who have inherited them. Most of them will live in Paris and will have a home by the sea in fashionable coastal resorts.
Yeh, that kind of makes you wonder what sort of Brexit blowback might happen after June 23rd, when France, Spain and Ireland send 1.2 million Dick and Angel types back to Blighty. They will all be looking to scrounge a reality tv deal.
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