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Old 07-06-2016, 09:43
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So I've seen a couple of comments in the media claiming this is the best England team since the World Cup winning team of 1966. The usual pre-tournament over hyping of expectations is usually par for the course. What do people think?
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:45
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Papers won't sell themselves I guess.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:56
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Load of tosh.

May end up equaling the best performance since 66 but no way on paper this squad is the best in 50 years.
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Old 07-06-2016, 09:58
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Totally false, the team who went to the 1998 World Cup was far superior to this one.
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Old 07-06-2016, 10:11
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Totally false, the team who went to the 1998 World Cup was far superior to this one.
I agree. Unfortunately for England it was a very strong year internationally with very good French, Brazilian, Croatian, Dutch, Italian and Argentinian sides.
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Old 07-06-2016, 18:56
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Totally false, the team who went to the 1998 World Cup was far superior to this one.
...or any other English team that went anywhere up to about 2008. The quality took a nose dive from 2010 onwards.

This current team just barely beats the one in 2014

I agree. Unfortunately for England it was a very strong year internationally with very good French, Brazilian, Croatian, Dutch, Italian and Argentinian sides.
WC 1998 was a great tournament with some amazing quality
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Old 08-06-2016, 09:09
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Any team that has Milner in it, cannot also have the word "best" in it
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Old 08-06-2016, 20:40
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Euro 96 team was the best one England had, half that team had experience of being England Captain, plus most of those players were leaders for the club sides, then you had Gascoigne who could pull a rabbit out of nothing[if only he was 3 inches taller], plus England had a manager who could change things when needed & inspire the players.
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Old 08-06-2016, 20:42
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Any team that has Milner in it, cannot also have the word "best" in it
He was in two league winning sides with City so obviously they can.
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Old 08-06-2016, 20:47
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So I've seen a couple of comments in the media
Please tell us it was The Sun or Express!

Dear me, this current crop really are average and pale into insignificance if compared to the 66 squad.

Let's wish them well and all that, nothing wrong with 'believing' - maybe they'll scrape a draw against the Russians.
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Old 08-06-2016, 22:00
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He was in two league winning sides with City so obviously they can.
He also got 7 goals and 14 assists this season for Liverpool.

But, no, he's terrible. Worst ever...
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Old 08-06-2016, 22:02
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I thought the team between 1998-06 was supposed to be our "Golden Generation" - just they didn't really perform when it matters.
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Old 08-06-2016, 22:13
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I thought the team between 1998-06 was supposed to be our "Golden Generation" - just they didn't really perform when it matters.
Or were found out more like. Sure, they were all playing for big English clubs but they were never really what you would call an outstanding side or team unit. The reason they kept crashing out of tournaments is that they simply weren't good enough.

The current Belgian side remind me of them : all playing for big clubs and yet something doesn't seem right and they're not playing as a team.
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:18
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Euro 96 team was the best one England had, half that team had experience of being England Captain, plus most of those players were leaders for the club sides, then you had Gascoigne who could pull a rabbit out of nothing[if only he was 3 inches taller], plus England had a manager who could change things when needed & inspire the players.
Definitely agree. 1996 was the last team we had capable of winning a tournament. Maybe I'm older and more jaded now but the team and the manager back then was the last time I felt excited by England
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:21
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If you were doing a best England X1 of the the last 50 years, how many of the current lot would make the squad let alone the starting line up

I can't think of any
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:28
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Rose tinted glasses: was the 1966 team that great anyway?
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Old 11-06-2016, 08:40
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If you were doing a best England X1 of the the last 50 years, how many of the current lot would make the squad let alone the starting line up

I can't think of any
Only a handful of them have played in a tournament before, so let's give them a chance to lose before consigning them to the loser pile.
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Old 11-06-2016, 09:09
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The golden generation looking back always makes me smile .

I remember a preview to the World Cup in 2006 where Terry venables that England only had to worry and Argentina and Rooney was the second best play in the world
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Old 11-06-2016, 09:30
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Only a handful of them have played in a tournament before, so let's give them a chance to lose before consigning them to the loser pile.
That's a fair point but it will take an improvement of humungous proportions to get into the best X! of the last 50 years
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:04
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No way is it the best England team since 66'. The Euro 96' team and the WC teams of 90', 98' and 2002 were better. Well the last two squads were on paper at least, the "Golden Generation" seriously underachieved/bottled it. Let's see if this squad can at least beat Russia before making any sort of claim about it's quality, remember no England team has ever won it's opening fixture in the history of the tournament. PL8, L4, D4.
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Old 11-06-2016, 11:26
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World Cup 98-2002 were England's best crop of players since then. The current lot have nothing on them.

Having said that, in fpur years time, Kane and Ali could be up there.
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Old 11-06-2016, 12:02
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That's a fair point but it will take an improvement of humungous proportions to get into the best X! of the last 50 years
It's certainly unlikely, but a semi final appearance would be rare enough to have them enter the conversation as international players are almost entirely defined by tournament finals.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:16
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Euro 96 team (full of leaders, great manager) for me is far better than the one now but I think there's good potential in this team, on a side note imagine Euro 96 team with the Gazza from 1990....
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