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who, me?
10-06-2016
Was re-watching last night's episode, where Jayne was talking about her friendship with Chelsea. She said that they had been very close friends but had fallen out badly just before Big Brother began. Ryan asked: 'In the last two weeks?' and she said 'yes'. If the contestants are hidden away from the world for two weeks before BB starts, how would that happen?
erin_p
10-06-2016
The Hms are starting to trip themselves up , they can't keep track of their storyline .
All_seeing_eye
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“The Hms are starting to trip themselves up , they can't keep track of their storyline .”

I've noticed it as well.
Gusto Brunt
10-06-2016
And how come both Chelsea and Jayne & Sam and Ryan all FOUR and more applied for BB the same year and were accepted.
lea27
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt:
“And how come both Chelsea and Jayne & Sam and Ryan all FOUR and more applied for BB the same year and were accepted.”

I can't see how that could happen. They must be approached these days like they are to compete on Xfactor.
Has this not been mentioned on Bots?
erin_p
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt:
“And how come both Chelsea and Jayne & Sam and Ryan all FOUR and more applied for BB the same year and were accepted.”

I also find it odd that not one Hm has questioned who is nominating them , no speculation about another house ...nothing .
Ænima
10-06-2016
It's all very contrived feeling isn't it? They all have these big grievances in their past and just happen to be talking about them, like when Sam mentioned Ryan, just randomly or how Jason keeps constantly mentioning how Charlie was (in so many words), stalking him. I mean, I've never heard a guy talk about his ex so much and in such a nasty, negative way, just randomly like that, oh and she just happens to be in the other house listening to him say it.

My two pennies worth is, whilst there is a semblance of 'reality' to the show, it is very heavily fabricated and set up in many ways. I'm guessing they know about the other house, I'm guessing some of the fall out stories are being hammed up (or even invented completely) and I think this is basically scripted, event wise, but what they say and do mostly is off the cuff or improvised, to maintain some semblance of the reality aspect.
Gusto Brunt
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by lea27:
“I can't see how that could happen. They must be approached these days like they are to compete on Xfactor.
Has this not been mentioned on Bots?”

Planned out, scripted and it's not right.
who, me?
10-06-2016
I really hate this. I know it's naive of me, but I WANT to believe this is a genuine show and not a TOWIE/MIC lookalike. All the interest drains away if it's scripted. The whole joy of BB was that you could watch real people interacting and see what happens psychologically. Seems the housemates are just clones and puppets this year. Why, why are they messing with it?
Gusto Brunt
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“I also find it odd that not one Hm has questioned who is nominating them , no speculation about another house ...nothing .”

Yeah, you'd think they would be kicking up a stink about that but they're all accepting it.
Ænima
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by who, me?:
“I really hate this. I know it's naive of me, but I WANT to believe this is a genuine show and not a TOWIE/MIC lookalike. All the interest drains away if it's scripted. The whole joy of BB was that you could watch real people interacting and see what happens psychologically. Seems the housemates are just clones and puppets this year. Why, why are they messing with it?”

I personally think it's semi-scripted, i.e., the big events are scripted and known about by the housemates, but the dialogue between them is mostly natural and off the cuff.

Even in shows like TOWIE and Made in Chelsea, they don't have a solid script per se, they sort of improv it, based around major events that have to happen- like they get a script summing up the big events and sort of improv the dialogue around that.

I think BB is a bit like that now. Some of the conversations are natural (like when you watch the live feed), but they are aware of the other house and the twists and possibly even get a brief, to make sure they do something they can put in the highlights show, but for the rest of their time in the house (i.e, the bits we don't usually see) they are probably conversing naturally.
dixiewhiskey
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“It's all very contrived feeling isn't it? They all have these big grievances in their past and just happen to be talking about them, like when Sam mentioned Ryan, just randomly or how Jason keeps constantly mentioning how Charlie was (in so many words), stalking him. I mean, I've never heard a guy talk about his ex so much and in such a nasty, negative way, just randomly like that, oh and she just happens to be in the other house listening to him say it.

My two pennies worth is, whilst there is a semblance of 'reality' to the show, it is very heavily fabricated and set up in many ways. I'm guessing they know about the other house, I'm guessing some of the fall out stories are being hammed up (or even invented completely) and I think this is basically scripted, event wise, but what they say and do mostly is off the cuff or improvised, to maintain some semblance of the reality aspect.”

Agreed.

Not forgetting how they showed Chelsea to be a materialistic knobhead when they had actually asked what possession of his would he miss the most.
All_seeing_eye
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by dixiewhiskey:
“Agreed.

Not forgetting how they showed Chelsea to be a materialistic knobhead when they had actually asked what possession of his would he miss the most.”

So glad he corrected them, just shows how edited it is.
erin_p
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt:
“Planned out, scripted and it's not right. ”

Well we know Sam's line is "Wash you fake tan of mate" he said it last night on the HL show , and again we have him saying it to Latysha today.

Laura forgot her cue on the Tree of Sin task..
Gusto Brunt
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“Well we know Sam's line is "Wash you fake tan of mate" he said it last night on the HL show , and again we have him saying it to Latysha today.

Laura forgot her cue on the Tree of Sin task..”

That's why there is no midnight live feed. In case someone slips up and it cannot be corrected in time.
Barracute
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by who, me?:
“Was re-watching last night's episode, where Jayne was talking about her friendship with Chelsea. She said that they had been very close friends but had fallen out badly just before Big Brother began. Ryan asked: 'In the last two weeks?' and she said 'yes'. If the contestants are hidden away from the world for two weeks before BB starts, how would that happen?”

They werent hidden for two weeks - it was one week (there was a thread about it) !
dixiewhiskey
10-06-2016
Lots of slip up when they're entered the house on launch night too, already knowing each other. Sam mentioned seeing another housemate when doing BB digital? Then it cut away. Also - how has Jayne only just fallen out with Chelsea when they've not had their phones for however long?

EDIT - apologies, this has been mentioned further up
who, me?
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Barracute:
“They werent hidden for two weeks - it was one week (there was a thread about it) !”

In that case they would have been able to read this:
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...-second-house/
Barracute
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by who, me?:
“In that case they would have been able to read this:
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...-second-house/”

and the rest !
erin_p
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by Gusto Brunt:
“That's why there is no midnight live feed. In case someone slips up and it cannot be corrected in time.”

or twitter updates.
I noticed on the first night HL show Jackson had his hat and coat on sitting with Sam , then in the garden he was in his white shirt then when they had to gather at the sofa's he had his whole Willywonka ensemble on .
WeeJintyMcGinty
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by who, me?:
“In that case they would have been able to read this:
http://www.digitalspy.com/tv/big-bro...-second-house/”

That was published on 27th may, on the official BB website it lists their twitter accounts and I just did a random check on a couple of them and they were still tweeting on 30th may/1st june.
gjc
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by who, me?:
“We are definitely being played”

Only if you believe that this is not scripted.
who, me?
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by WeeJintyMcGinty:
“That was published on 27th may, on the official BB website it lists their twitter accounts and I just did a random check on a couple of them and they were still tweeting on 30th may/1st june.”

Hah - nice sleuthing, WJMG!
Oh, bring back the days of our endless threads about whether Mario was a mole... Now they're ALL bloody moles.
erin_p
10-06-2016
bbspy ‏@bbspy 17h
@LukeE3 During the 1.15am timestamp - note the Sky Room (from the UK vs. USA series)
https://twitter.com/bbspy/status/741015096546217984
Gusto Brunt
10-06-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“or twitter updates.
I noticed on the first night HL show Jackson had his hat and coat on sitting with Sam , then in the garden he was in his white shirt then when they had to gather at the sofa's he had his whole Willywonka ensemble on .”


Wow that's on par with the fake Moon landings conspiracy theories. Seriously, I'll go back and watch that live feed.
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