so they both presumably applied for big brother when they were friends. then they fell out and producer's just knew about it? something doesn't sit right.

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That is even more proof that BB is manipulating the timeline of comments and quotes we see outside of the context in which they were originally made to suit their (BB's) endgame.

And the reason why it's not real is that there's absolutely no way that BB would suddenly go out and look for somebody and audition them after everything has already been put in place just before the series is about to be broadcast.
Does that sound very likely to anybody at all?.

I'm not, I couldn't give a crap.

If Chelsea and Jane, especially, were still talking several weeks ago, she would have known he was in the house, as no doubt he told her and she would have been a reserve HM.

So, why has no-one else mentioned the 'other half' had also applied to BB, or that a friend and I both applied but they did not get in.

How would BB know, e.g., about the dislike between Ryan and his nemesis, in the first place, in addition to both of them very fortunately applying for the same show?

None of it makes any sense, at all.

I remember back in BB5 I think they were talking about the audition process e.g queuing at a stadium with thousands of other hopefuls waiting to be seen.
I'm sure Derek said he didn't go through any of that, and was invited to be on the show.

Bear in mind this was quite a few years ago now so I could wrong.

I wouldn't know how they've done it this year and I don't quite want to speculate, but in the past people have definitely been approached. However, I think they've still had to audition, just bumped up through the first bit. I don't think they would have put people in the House without ever meeting them first, they might have just been dreadful.

However, I wouldn't like to speak for this year. Nothing would surprise me now.

They think the viewing public are voting through the app? There were several on line votes last year.

Yep I agree

All made up contrived Bollocks like Towie ,where like you say Basically Scripted ,with off the cuff/improvised how they react /what they say

Gosh, the innocent days of BB.
Now to to get in the house you need to have a very good agent.

or audition for XFacor and make an ass of yourself /have sex with with a celeb/have dirt on a politician.

I agree, she said it was about 2 weeks ago. Surely they were all picked by then. Secondly they would be locked away, it's been all over the papers about a second house. And why has not one housemate questioned who they think is targeting them for nomination? BB says you've been targeted. Surely they would speculate.

I know some said they were recruited and had no auditions but I fail to see how she and chelsea fell out 2 weeks ago and are in BB together without any knowledge of each other.

Probably another reason live feed is so limited. Anything could be going on and being said in there. BB could be in and out. We wouldn't know.

To be fair, the these are being brought up as part of the task - they didnt bring them up just randomly.

However I cant seem to work out logistically how you would organise something like this through pure co-incidence.

They couldnt have asked everyone who applied to list all of their exces and enemies (and then cross referenced this list to find any 'matches' who had applied) - people wouldnt give this information freely - and surely the HM's would have said "was anyone else asked during auditions to list their enemies"

Even if they selected the original HM's first and then to find "the others" went back through their intverview vids to find out the names of exce's and enemies - sure you can do a bit of stalking on Social media to find out who these people are off just a first name etc. and match it off their Friends list, but surely these people would still have to have been approached by BB to apply rather than them auditioning off their own back. And if a TV company randomly approaches you, wouldnt your first question be Why me?

I literally have no idea

It's definitely not the same show anymore. Zelebrity version and totally controlled.

I imagine you need a pretty bad agent. Good agents don't encourage their clients to go on TV shows with terrible reputations.

makes you wonder how many of them are signed to the same agent....

It's so contrived its sickening. I feel like I'm being played like a fiddle as the producers sit behind the scenes with their feet on the desk drinking champagne & Latte's. They prob even say to each other "Those dumb asses who watch this shit won't suspect a thing..". I don't know wtf is going on tbh.. The C4 version felt more 'real' than what we're led to believe here.

Probably the most false thing I've ever see masquerading as a reality show.

Think of it like this though; If BB was scripted do u really think that it would have been as controversial as it has been, still to this day?. If it was scripted I doubt we would have seen incidents that involved the likes of Ken Morley, Jeremy, Daley or Aaron from last year. Just a thought.

That's the thing, though. I don't think it has been scripted in the past. Just this time.

Yes, I don't think it was scripted last year, because the Housemates had some semblance of independence about them. You could just see Big Brother itching to force the 'drama' (their term for pointless rows) with the tasks they were setting, and it just wasn't working with that group of Housemates. So they orchestrated a situation where some of the key members of the team would be out and replaced by people who were going to play the game more (though I did like Harry Amelia) and when that didn't work amazingly straight away, they brought back bloody Helen! I think this year they were thinking, 'Sod all the arguments, let's just dictate it to them.'

They were only hidden for a week... And tbh it looks like the producers might not have even been aware of Jayne and Chelsea's connections.

I tbh don't think we're being played, it would be too difficult to hire actors or whatever people on here think theyre doing, and expect word not to get out.

Is Evelyn the only confirmed housemate that actually had to audition?

What makes you think they didn't know about Jayne and Chelsea? That doesn't seem very likely... six people in a house next door who have been specifically chosen for their connections to the Housemates, and one of them just happens to have a connection to one of them that the producers aren't aware of? The odds of that must be incredibly slim...

I don't think they've hired actors. There'd be no point hiring them for money, they're all getting free publicity and a 1 in 18 opportunity of winning £100,000 so there's a lot in it for them. I think they all genuinely intended to be Housemates, but I think they've been told how to behave and what to talk about - probably not with a literal script, but I think subjects have been fed to them and they improvise around it. And before this year I would have agreed with you that the backlash if it got out would be too much to risk, but having actually seen it I can't reach any other logical conclusion.