Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“Yeah sure”
“Yeah sure”
Why would I think something different I'm not mentally unhinged with a massive chip on my shoulder.
So we can't mention blacks.
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Originally Posted by george.millman:
“Not if the suggestion is that the person is racist.
It's like if your best friend is black, but you have an argument with another black person, about something totally other than race, and it's suggested that the argument was because the person is black. You'd say, 'I'm clearly not racist, my best friend is black!' That's not the same as saying, 'This person is my best friend despite being black', it's saying 'This person is my best friend, and would be my best friend whatever their ethnicity, but the fact that they are my best friend proves that I am not racist, and the fact that I don't get on with that other person is completely irrelevant to their ethnicity.'
I would have thought this was perfectly obvious, but in the heat of the moment when someone is screaming at you, it's hard to articulate yourself in a way that they're going to understand and listen to. To be honest, I find Natalie's reaction despicable; if you're going to call the racism card on everything, it undermines anyone who has ever been a victim of actual racism.”
“Not if the suggestion is that the person is racist.
It's like if your best friend is black, but you have an argument with another black person, about something totally other than race, and it's suggested that the argument was because the person is black. You'd say, 'I'm clearly not racist, my best friend is black!' That's not the same as saying, 'This person is my best friend despite being black', it's saying 'This person is my best friend, and would be my best friend whatever their ethnicity, but the fact that they are my best friend proves that I am not racist, and the fact that I don't get on with that other person is completely irrelevant to their ethnicity.'
I would have thought this was perfectly obvious, but in the heat of the moment when someone is screaming at you, it's hard to articulate yourself in a way that they're going to understand and listen to. To be honest, I find Natalie's reaction despicable; if you're going to call the racism card on everything, it undermines anyone who has ever been a victim of actual racism.”
She didn't accuse anyone of being racist. She got overly shouty about black people being discussed and rated as a category by a bunch of people not in that category. It would have pissed me off regardless of whether my category was deemed good or bad by the panel. The rest of them were insensitive, ignorant and patronising. She was loud and aggressive about airing her grievance. The anti-pc bandwagon's no bigger or cleverer than the pc bandwagon
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