On LF they main house HM's were just openly talking about the other house and how Jackson and Alex are there.

I'm not 100% sure but I think Andrew even confirmed it.

So there is pretty much no point in the other house at all anymore then.

The fact they could hear 3-4 of the "others" in a garden about 20 ft away having a stand up top of their lungs row, may have tipped them off already...

Will be glad when this second house non event is over and the others have been sent packing, seem a right group of dullards.

Good - get them all together in the main house and be done with all this others nonsense.

Of course they knew. Ryan doesn't exactly have a quiet voice

It couldn't be more obvious though. I think the 2 houses was a good idea but having them as the others is stupid. It should be just 2 houses with 1 from each leaving each week and then open up the house as one mid way. It would've been interesting to keep the housemates separate and then make them only see each other when they do a task.

Alex admitted that Sam recognised Ryan's voice when they heard Ryan and Natalie arguing in the garden the day before.

"The game has changed!" Lol.

Emma was right the game has changed it has become even more shite & predictable then we could have ever imagined

That sounds like an interesting idea perhaps they could do that in a future series.

That's quite a funny oxymoron you just coined; "More predictable than you could have ever imagined!"

It's the Survivor format.
Two tribes compete against each other every week with the losers having to evict a tribe member.
When the numbers get low enough to make it unfeasible to compete tribe vs tribe the competition moves onto a solo format where the tribes merge and then everyone competes to ensure their own safety.

It was doomed from the start. Two staircases outside was a bit of a give-away as well as as the HMs being able to hear the others shouting in the garden.

This is just another re-hash of the 'other house' feature which has cropped up so many times before. The only time it worked was in BB5 when the two girls were 'evicted' and sent to the bed sit. Ever since then, HMs have always suspected a secret room or another house.

Shouldn't all the original "others" be booted out then as they have failed in their mission not to be discovered. BB should put Alex and Jackson back and get rid of the others with immediate effect.

That's true! They are supposedly on a 'secret task/mission' but it's all went horribly & obviously 'Pete Tong'. By the states of last nights live show BB haven't really got a clue what's happening themselves & are making it up as they go along

I posted in another post, I think it would be so much better to move the HM's about, allow them to meet up for tasks then have to go home to their own house at midnight. Have treats & luxury rooms for HM's who win tasks, and also have a boring, dull area where the ones who break the rules get penalised & sent to instead of the stupid 'no hair dryer for an hour' nonsense!!

They have the space now so please god let them shake it up a bit now there is so much fun ideas they could be doing with all that extra space.

Have a VIP area, hold games/quizzes allowing HM's to build up to get VIP passes to get in to see a Celeb appear for a night, hold mini shows/concerts..... The list is endless for anyone with half a brain !!!

Perfect solution.

Still a huge point in the two houses. Rivalry, pitting them against each other with threat of not being an official HM. I'd like the other house to stay for nearly whole series with HMs going in/out until last minute. Lot of tension there. And hopefully bonds of friendship too.

I was cringing when that row went off. I expected BB to intervene . But did Ryan say hed been shown clips before or after they found out.
Pretty much a waste of money

Good points!

Completely agree with you. What a complete farce this show is.

With Marco saying you will be going to the other house to Alex and Jackson on the live eviction show last night how on earth can the producers keep the up this ridiculous 2 separate houses going now.

Ryan was the wrong one to go into the main house it was obvious he was going to shout his mouth off as soon as he got in there to Sam.

I don't agree. I think BB has moved on - we all know that. It's a shame we don't see as many natural bonds of friendship etc because of the casting/interference BUT if it has changed - then I'm all for more strategy, making it more of a 'game'/survival etc.

With regards to Ryan - Andrew knew he wouldn't keep quiet. Best and most controversial/game play approach was to upset cart and tell all. See where they all dropped after that. As he said he watches...

How is this different to other years when there was a secret room where housemates watched the main house ? this TWIST is rubbish the main house knows about it so yet again its a BB fail .

BB never sticks to its own declared rules anymore. From the moment we saw them we knew the show would be rigged for the Others to become housemates. No more Jonathans.

Ahahahahha! All that money spent on the expansion and the housemates ruin it for them in under two days. Bet they feel pretty silly now.

The problem is, you are reliant on a bunch of very stupid people to pull off a major stunt and even going so far as to give them instructions in front of a huge crowd and then send them inside, expecting it to go off without a hitch. The producers have nobody to blame but themselves. They should have chosen housemates who want to have fun with the game and not housemates who take it so fvcking seriously.

I don't think BB are bothered by the instructions not being followed. If anything it makes it more interesting go against the rule of thumb given for entering the HM house. I'm sure they've thought that might happen. And I'm sure they don't mind if it causes more tension than pretending they don't know anything