Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“He's not.
But whatever helps you sleep at night...”
“He's not.
But whatever helps you sleep at night...”
He always does this, like fellaini
Group B: Wales vs Slovakia - KO 5pm, BBC1/HD
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Originally Posted by owen10:
“What would the Welsh team be like if they did not have Gareth Bale”
“What would the Welsh team be like if they did not have Gareth Bale”
Yeah but they're not a one man team.😂
Great first half from Wales all over the pitch. Jonny Williams is running on Duracell.
Dreadful half from the officials. Clearest penalty you're ever likely to see.
Dreadful half from the officials. Clearest penalty you're ever likely to see.
Good spot by the BBC.. keeper went the same way the previous two free kicks from Bale have gone in Wales matches.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“He always does this, like fellaini”
“He always does this, like fellaini”
He can play a bit dirty sometimes, but he's hardly a thug.
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“He can play a bit dirty sometimes, but he's hardly a thug.”
“He can play a bit dirty sometimes, but he's hardly a thug.”
"BIT"?...
It was sheer luck the Welsh player wasn't really hurt.
The Skrtel challenge gets worse when you see it on replay. It's a shocker but what's more shocking is the official that's looking straight at it and doing nothing.
Originally Posted by Tourista:
“"BIT"?...
It was sheer luck the Welsh player wasn't really hurt.”
“"BIT"?...
It was sheer luck the Welsh player wasn't really hurt.”
Well obviously I wasn't talking about that particular incident. Obviously that's bad and he should have been sent off. I'm talking about him overall.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Skrtel defending as he usually does, with no actual idea of how to defend, and just being a thug.
Definitely a red card.”
“Skrtel defending as he usually does, with no actual idea of how to defend, and just being a thug.
Definitely a red card.”
Should have been an indirect free kick for obstruction but not a red card. That wasn't a deliberate elbow. No sharp movement towards the Wales player with the elbow from Martin Skrte - he was looking at the ball.
Originally Posted by Sattrega:
“The Skrtel challenge gets worse when you see it on replay. It's a shocker but what's more shocking is the official that's looking straight at it and doing nothing.”
“The Skrtel challenge gets worse when you see it on replay. It's a shocker but what's more shocking is the official that's looking straight at it and doing nothing.”
I don't think it helped that the official was sidestepping to his right at the time, which perhaps gave him an angle that made it look like a general coming together rather than Skrtel leading with the elbow.
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“Well obviously I wasn't talking about that particular incident. Obviously that's bad and he should have been sent off. I'm talking about him overall.”
“Well obviously I wasn't talking about that particular incident. Obviously that's bad and he should have been sent off. I'm talking about him overall.”
So a player who deliberately forearms an opponent in the head is not a thug? Give me a break.
It was assault. They should now ban him from the tournament retrospectively
Despite his insufferably arrogant complacency regarding Wales' defence, Hartson (radio 5 live) is right about Slovakia's striker, Duris, who has contributed nothing other than repeated fouls, no passes, no shots on or off target, nothing at all. He must already be a strong contender for the tournament clunker.
(He'll probably score a hat trick second half)
(He'll probably score a hat trick second half)
Originally Posted by TheMunch:
“He can play a bit dirty but he's hardly a thug. He looks scarier than he actually is. He does whatever he can to stop his opponent, often putting his body on the line or doing last-ditch tackles. His main thing is shirt pulling.
But to say he doesn't know how to defend and is a thug is a bit off.”
“He can play a bit dirty but he's hardly a thug. He looks scarier than he actually is. He does whatever he can to stop his opponent, often putting his body on the line or doing last-ditch tackles. His main thing is shirt pulling.
But to say he doesn't know how to defend and is a thug is a bit off.”
Oh come now!
There is club bias, and then there is sticking up for the indefensible!
Originally Posted by mattlamb:
“Should have been an indirect free kick for obstruction but not a red card. That wasn't a deliberate elbow. No sharp movement towards the Wales player with the elbow from Martin Skrte - he was looking at the ball.”
“Should have been an indirect free kick for obstruction but not a red card. That wasn't a deliberate elbow. No sharp movement towards the Wales player with the elbow from Martin Skrte - he was looking at the ball.”
Oh good grief
Originally Posted by mattlamb:
“Should have been an indirect free kick for obstruction but not a red card. That wasn't a deliberate elbow. No sharp movement towards the Wales player with the elbow from Martin Skrte - he was looking at the ball.”
“Should have been an indirect free kick for obstruction but not a red card. That wasn't a deliberate elbow. No sharp movement towards the Wales player with the elbow from Martin Skrte - he was looking at the ball.”
Give over!.
He made NO attempt to close with the ball, he took the man out, to say otherwise is ludicrous.
Originally Posted by mattlamb:
“Should have been an indirect free kick for obstruction but not a red card. That wasn't a deliberate elbow. No sharp movement towards the Wales player with the elbow from Martin Skrte - he was looking at the ball.”
“Should have been an indirect free kick for obstruction but not a red card. That wasn't a deliberate elbow. No sharp movement towards the Wales player with the elbow from Martin Skrte - he was looking at the ball.”
Oh come on, you don't have to look at a player to know exactly where he is!
He knew exactly what he was doing, he was trying by any means necessary to make sure the Welsh player didn't get that ball.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Oh come now!
There is club bias, and then there is sticking up for the indefensible!”
“Oh come now!
There is club bias, and then there is sticking up for the indefensible!”
You must have been waiting at least a year to post that one in response to The Munch
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Oh good grief”
“Oh good grief”
It was a flat elbow - it wasn;t a jagged movement whatsoever. It was a clumsy attempt to shield the ball out of play.
Originally Posted by mattlamb:
“Should have been an indirect free kick for obstruction but not a red card. That wasn't a deliberate elbow. No sharp movement towards the Wales player with the elbow from Martin Skrte - he was looking at the ball.”
“Should have been an indirect free kick for obstruction but not a red card. That wasn't a deliberate elbow. No sharp movement towards the Wales player with the elbow from Martin Skrte - he was looking at the ball.”
the angle from behind the goal clearly showed the opposite... a trip to specsavers for you is in order.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“So a player who deliberately forearms an opponent in the head is not a thug? Give me a break.
It was assault. They should now ban him from the tournament retrospectively”
“So a player who deliberately forearms an opponent in the head is not a thug? Give me a break.
It was assault. They should now ban him from the tournament retrospectively”
I already said it was bad and that he should have been sent off.
No, I don't believe he's a thug. But there's on point trying to convince you.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Oh come now!
There is club bias, and then there is sticking up for the indefensible!”
“Oh come now!
There is club bias, and then there is sticking up for the indefensible!”
Really? You, of all people? Accusing me of club bias?
It's not club bias. I'm basing it on the fact that I've seen him a lot more than you and feel I'm in a better position to judge him than you. You say he doesn't know how to defend, based on what? The few times you've seen him? A reputation? Maybe the few times he's played this season where he has been poor? He's not the best but he's hardly poor, he does know how to defend.
I could have accused you of being biased in my initial reply to you but you'd have only got upset as you usually do.
People in glass houses and all that...
Originally Posted by mattlamb:
“It was a flat elbow - it wasn;t a jagged movement whatsoever. It was a clumsy attempt to shield the ball out of play.”
“It was a flat elbow - it wasn;t a jagged movement whatsoever. It was a clumsy attempt to shield the ball out of play.”
Club bias in action.
Skrtel is rash and physical and can't handle pace or physicality - that's why I predicted pre-match he'd get a red. However, those calling him a thug are just mostly exhibiting their usual club bias. Skrtel does a lot of grabbing at set pieces but to say he uses his elbows a lot is plainly wrong. I wonder how those same fans view Fellaini or Costa...
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