That will do, yes!!
Group B: Wales vs Slovakia - KO 5pm, BBC1/HD
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Big period for Wales to get through now.
And they might have to get through it without Ashley Williams.
And they might have to get through it without Ashley Williams.
Good run down the right on the goal, and I know Robbie Savage was praising the way he let it run across his body, but having done that I really do think someone could have got a block on it. It rolled a long way across the box at not much speed.
Sorry but again Ashley Williams was at least partly to blame for that goal , he was totally ineffective just then .... this .could be a godsend if he goes off tbh .James Collins is decent enough . I just find it bizarre that everyone says that he'd walk into the England team.
And for the first time in the match Slovakia have 11 footballers on the pitch as opposed to 10 + Duris. Wales really up against it, time for Bale to do something as he has been more or less anonymous aside from the free kick/goal.
Originally Posted by MichPlat:
“Sorry but again Ashley Williams was at least partly to blame for that goal , he was totally ineffective just then .... this .could be a godsend if he goes off tbh .James Collins is decent enough . I just find it bizarre that everyone says that he'd walk into the England team.”
“Sorry but again Ashley Williams was at least partly to blame for that goal , he was totally ineffective just then .... this .could be a godsend if he goes off tbh .James Collins is decent enough . I just find it bizarre that everyone says that he'd walk into the England team.”
Indeed, very slow on the turn.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“I am a fair poster when it needs to be fair, if a United player does something wrong, I will call them out on it, and not defend them.
I have no issues with doing so.
Skrtel is not exactly an angel is he, come on even you must admit that?
His defending style is to pull shirts, and to generally get away with as much fouling as possible without the referee seeing him doing so, that is not how to defend as I know the word to mean.”
“I am a fair poster when it needs to be fair, if a United player does something wrong, I will call them out on it, and not defend them.
I have no issues with doing so.
Skrtel is not exactly an angel is he, come on even you must admit that?
His defending style is to pull shirts, and to generally get away with as much fouling as possible without the referee seeing him doing so, that is not how to defend as I know the word to mean.”
I never said he's an angel, in fact if you read my posts I have said he can be a bit dirty. Read Sloth's post. He puts it better than I can.
Originally Posted by TheSloth:
“Skrtel is rash and physical and can't handle pace or physicality - that's why I predicted pre-match he'd get a red. However, those calling him a thug are just mostly exhibiting their usual club bias. Skrtel does a lot of grabbing at set pieces but to say he uses his elbows a lot is plainly wrong. I wonder how those same fans view Fellaini or Costa...”
“Skrtel is rash and physical and can't handle pace or physicality - that's why I predicted pre-match he'd get a red. However, those calling him a thug are just mostly exhibiting their usual club bias. Skrtel does a lot of grabbing at set pieces but to say he uses his elbows a lot is plainly wrong. I wonder how those same fans view Fellaini or Costa...”
What I object to is what you said, the way you said it.
That isn't his defending style, it can be a part of his game, if he feels he can get an advantage from it if he has to. But there's more to him than that. He's a physical defender who puts everything he can into defending. He puts his body on the line, and will just do whatever he needs to do to keep his opponent from scoring.
He knows how to defend because he's been doing it for years, even if he's had a poor season and isn't as good as he once was. He can be prone to errors or fouls because of his tackling, but that's it. The way you describe him is just wrong. I've asked you a few times now what you've based your opinion on, how much you've actually seen him. If you watch him as much as a Liverpool fan would you'd see there's a lot more to him than pulling shirts.
The point is, he's not a thug, and he DOES know how to defend.
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