2 more games and the boys will be back home same as the world cup.
Group B: England v Russia - KO 8pm, ITV1/HD
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Originally Posted by ustarion:
“i can't remember the last time England played well in a tournament. I think it was World Cup 2002.”
“i can't remember the last time England played well in a tournament. I think it was World Cup 2002.”
Did you miss tonight's match then?
Originally Posted by spindiddly:
“Wales will give these lot a hammering. Dear God that was bad.”
“Wales will give these lot a hammering. Dear God that was bad.”
The result yes, the performance was decent.
Originally Posted by Janielovesyou:
“The subs haven't improved our solidity for sure which is what they should have been doing”
“The subs haven't improved our solidity for sure which is what they should have been doing”
Subs? There was only 2 subs for England. The manager needed to put fresh legs on. The offensive players were tired, and attack for a second goal, with Rashford and Vardy. So were many of the defence, Stones probably should have came on.
So Roy in the past has been critcised for being conservative
He now goes out all out attack and he is still being criticised
He now goes out all out attack and he is still being criticised
Originally Posted by Dave 101:
“2 more games and the boys will be back home same as the world cup.”
“2 more games and the boys will be back home same as the world cup.”
Look on the bright side, if that happens then at least the journey is much shorter.
Originally Posted by Cissy Fairfax:
“Should never have brought on Milner, he left a chasm of space in the run up to that goal. We were solid until then and brilliant for 85 minutes.”
“Should never have brought on Milner, he left a chasm of space in the run up to that goal. We were solid until then and brilliant for 85 minutes.”
Milner was the obvious choice to bring on, a more defensive midfielder, replacing a tiring Rooney. I'm no Milner fan, but I'd rather he come on than say Vardy with that sort of time left.
Lalanna and Sterling will never be international quality and should be dropped. Kane lacked his shooting boots tonight but his body of work as an integral part of this"team" means he should not be not dropped. I would go with two up front against Wales.
Originally Posted by computermaster:
“Poor subs from Hodgson imo. Taking off Rooney who was having a good game and Milner is pointless. Also I noticed that Hart's distribution was dodgy all game and what was he doing at the end? 2 points lost unfortunately.”
“Poor subs from Hodgson imo. Taking off Rooney who was having a good game and Milner is pointless. Also I noticed that Hart's distribution was dodgy all game and what was he doing at the end? 2 points lost unfortunately.”
Needed Vardy or Rashford to kill the game off
Originally Posted by spindiddly:
“Wales will give these lot a hammering. Dear God that was bad.”
“Wales will give these lot a hammering. Dear God that was bad.”
No it wasn't.
Very disappointing goal to concede but we have now played the best team in our group, we should roll over the cannon fodder that is Wales & Slovakia.
Only one win from those two easily gets us through.
Sterling doesn't just need dropping, he needs sending home - awful, as he has been all season.
Only one win from those two easily gets us through.
Sterling doesn't just need dropping, he needs sending home - awful, as he has been all season.
I don't see why Roy is getting so much stick. We could have been 5-0 up at half time. Ok.. perhaps 3-0. But we had so many chances and we simply didn't finish them off. That's not Roy's fault. Had we only managed 1 or 2 shots on goal.. then you start to ask questions of the manager. But we were falling over ourselves to score.
Russia clearly came out in the 2nd half thinking they were still in it and played better. Perhaps Roy could have made changes but we were still getting chances to score. The game should have been an easy win for us.. and that's not Roy's fault IMHO.
Russia clearly came out in the 2nd half thinking they were still in it and played better. Perhaps Roy could have made changes but we were still getting chances to score. The game should have been an easy win for us.. and that's not Roy's fault IMHO.
Originally Posted by owen10:
“So Roy in the past has been critcised for being conservative
He now goes out all out attack and he is still being criticised”
“So Roy in the past has been critcised for being conservative
He now goes out all out attack and he is still being criticised”
Milner for Sterling is not an all out attack sub. He was there to solidify us and failed miserably.
Incidentally, some more details have come out about that crowd trouble after the final whistle.
Apparently the Russian fans broke out of their section behind Joe Hart's goal and just charged across at the England fans, who fled out of the stadium.
Stewarding to separate the fans was non existent.
Apparently the Russian fans broke out of their section behind Joe Hart's goal and just charged across at the England fans, who fled out of the stadium.
Stewarding to separate the fans was non existent.
Originally Posted by owen10:
“I dont think Crouchy is that gutted
As he is going home to his model wife”
“I dont think Crouchy is that gutted
As he is going home to his model wife”
Is Peter Crouch married?
Kane and Sterling need to take some responsibility as well. Both were poor. Should have brought Vardy on.
Originally Posted by Astra 1A:
“Very disappointing goal to concede but we have now played the best team in our group, we should roll over the cannon fodder that is Wales & Slovakia.
Only one win from those two easily gets us through.
Sterling doesn't just need dropping, he needs sending home - awful, as he has been all season.”
“Very disappointing goal to concede but we have now played the best team in our group, we should roll over the cannon fodder that is Wales & Slovakia.
Only one win from those two easily gets us through.
Sterling doesn't just need dropping, he needs sending home - awful, as he has been all season.”
Russia are the worst team in the group.
Originally Posted by owen10:
“So Roy in the past has been critcised for being conservative
He now goes out all out attack and he is still being criticised”
“So Roy in the past has been critcised for being conservative
He now goes out all out attack and he is still being criticised”
We still did our usual, get one goal up, then start hanging back and inviting shots.
Attack is the best form of defence for me. Part of the reason why it's so painful watching England.
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