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Group B: England v Russia - KO 8pm, ITV1/HD |
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Lallana's best position is CAM but he's good on the right. In terms of natural wingers Englandare lacking. I might be forgetting someome but we only really have Sterling, Ox and Ashley Young. Is the Ox in the 23? I know Walcott and Young aren't. We aren't blessed in that area at the moment.
Then you've got players who can play on the wing. Milner's a wide player. He signed for Liverpool on the promise that he'll be played centre-mid but his best games are out wide. Hendo's not bad on the right. Sturridge isn't great out wide, one of the reasons he came to us was because he couldn't play in the middle. But he can play there if he has to, and Rooney seems to be able to play anywhere. I think we're particularly weak on the left wing. |
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I'd have more respect for Roy if he simply admitted that he got the substitutions wrong, as was clear from the way the pattern of play changed after them.
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I saw nothing in the Wales v Slovakia and England v Russia matches to persuade me England cannot not beat Wales and Slovakia and end up top of their group. I admit I have no agenda about Hodgson, Rooney or Sterling, so it may be I have a completely skewed view of England.
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same old england we wither win ugly or not win gloriously.
and we have a same old turnip manager too. init marvelous
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I saw nothing in the Wales v Slovakia and England v Russia matches to persuade me England cannot not beat Wales and Slovakia and end up top of their group. I admit I have no agenda about Hodgson, Rooney or Sterling, so it may be I have a completely skewed view of England.
It's all very well controlling the ball and doing all the razzle-dazzle passing, but if you don't put the ball in the net, it means nowt. |
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How about the singular inability to score from the many chances in open play?
It's all very well controlling the ball and doing all the razzle-dazzle passing, but if you don't put the ball in the net, it means nowt. I do not accept it is an inability to score: last night was one match when lots of chances were not taken. To suggest Kane or Rooney, for instance, are unable to score from chances in open play on the basis of one match is, frankly, nonsense. Had England not created any chances in open play I would have a very different view. . |
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The point is we didn't create all that much, and the ones that we did were shot straight at their keeper for the most part.
We did well, but not well enough to get the three points, and we won't get through unless we actually do win one of our remaining games, and we won't win if we don't vastly improve our chance conversation ratio. Winning a friendly is totally irrelevant when talking about a tournament match that actually means something, do you honestly think that we could beat Germany when it counts in a tournament?? Yes I believe we could beat Germany in a tournament. And we're sure as hell more likely to do it if we try to encourage our team rather than going in to every match with a negative attitude. |
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Doubt it. Think it will be a draw and England will finish 2nd in the group.
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Another tournament, same old story. Yes England played well, were unlucky and should've won but the bottom line is we didn't. So once again we can't win the opening game of a tournament, once again massive pressure on the second game which might not be a must win but is certainly a must not lose. It wont be easy either, Wales will be flying after their win and will be fired up to do to us what their rugby team did to England in the RWC. Slovakia don't look pushovers either.
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I saw nothing in the Wales v Slovakia and England v Russia matches to persuade me England cannot not beat Wales and Slovakia and end up top of their group. I admit I have no agenda about Hodgson, Rooney or Sterling, so it may be I have a completely skewed view of England.
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You're right we need to convert some of our chances but for me the signs are there that we can do.
Yes I believe we could beat Germany in a tournament. And we're sure as hell more likely to do it if we try to encourage our team rather than going in to every match with a negative attitude. |
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We couldn't beat Russia though, and Wales and Slovakia look better teams.
Certainly we ought to pick up points if we can play like that again minus the late goal. A lucky 1-0 win will do the job! |
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We couldn't beat Russia though, and Wales and Slovakia look better teams.
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Of course we haven't yet see Germany play in this tournament yet, but generally speaking they are a very different beast at major tournaments when compared to just qualifying for them, so I am very doubtful that we could beat them when it mattered most.
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Hardly surprising given that you have virtually written off the prospect of beating Wales.
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The England defence still seems to be on completely different wavelengths.
When that ball was going in, Smalling pretty much just completely blocked off the area and Hart just stood there like a lemon as if the ball was going wide. Hart just doesn't seem to have much authority in his penalty area, can't see Guardiola wanting him as his number 1. |
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What could possible sanctions against Russia do to the group standings. Could Russia lose points, or even be expelled from the tournament. The later probably wouldn't help England as Wales and Slovakia would end up with 3-0 victories by default I imagine.
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What could possible sanctions against Russia do to the group standings. Could Russia lose points, or even be expelled from the tournament. The later probably wouldn't help England as Wales and Slovakia would end up with 3-0 victories by default I imagine.
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It'll just be a fine.
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Apart from the last minute goal Why were the pundits acting like England put in some great performance against a top team.
Russia are bang average at best. |
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Apart from the last minute goal Why were the pundits acting like England put in some great performance against a top team.
Russia are bang average at best. |
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Russia are an AWFUL team just like they were 2 years ago. Not to win against them was a terrible result for England. It's not like they drew 1-1 with Germany, France or Spain. I'd be surprised if there were many/any weaker teams than Russia at this tournament.
P.S. I've asked this before, but can people who defend Hodgson please explain to me why Kane is taking set pieces?!????? Wtf is that all about?! Not only is he terrible at them, surely it reduces England's chances to score if their main striker is not in the box! Also, why was Vardy not playing? |
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Kane taking corners just takes the biscuit. It's infuriating. Do Roy and the coaches have any sense whatsoever? He's the PL top scorer and clearly our best chance of scoring a goal. Not just that but isn't it blatantly obvious that they will come under huge criticism from the media/fans etc and just pile the pressure on themselves when they make such bizarre choices such as this. I wouldn't mind if his set piece delivery was any good but it was dire in the friendly and again last night.
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Hardly surprising given that you have virtually written off the prospect of beating Wales.
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That was yesterday. Today is a new day and a new opinion.
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WTF was Roy doing making Kane take corners?
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