That's big... So any more trouble and they're gone?

It is not the same thing though. Three days of violence in the streets followed by violence in the stadium is not comparable to a few scuffles. Russia and England get most of the headlines because they are involved in most of the problems.

A suspended disqualification really means nothing, you either disqualify them or you don't, UEFA really are a joke and no different to FIFA just another bunch of corrupt trough feeding wasters. .

That is how it should be. Let's hope they stick to it.

It means if they cause trouble this week, they are out!

They should be gone already, no excuse.

Russia just been handed a suspended disqualification, and fined 150,000, any more trouble, they out, which will be tomorrow/Thursday, as they are gearing up to cause more then.

Only if it happens inside the ground.

You can be pretty sure they will be policed in such a way while inside the ground it would make it very difficult for "similar incidentS" to happen again ensuring that wont happen

If they go, do Wales and Slovakia get awarded 3;0 wins against them?

If that's the case, why not and since it has been proved that Russia were the perpetrators and instigators of the violence rather than it being all England supporters fault the score for the England v Russia match should be that 3:0 to England too, but you as anti-England won't be so keen on that.

We should get through now with Russia going.

Russia won't be going, that's why they were given a pointless suspended disqualification instead of a real one, UEFA are too scared of Putin to actually disqualify them.

Sounds like it

More of a symbolic punishment than an actual punishment.

I did notice earlier that the Russians decided to deport 29 of the suspected hooligans out of the country.

What about the other 121?

Furthermore, the deportation was announced by the head of the Russian Supporters Union, Alexandr Shprygin, whom the Guardian uncovered a few days ago as having links to the far right and previously giving Nazi salutes.

I did hear the FA's former communications chief David Davies say yesterday that the possibility of a disqualification threat actually being carried out is more real now than it's ever been and I wonder if UEFA is steeling itself for the decision that it may be faced with by the end of the week.

You don't get the subtle difference between being anti-England and pro whoever England are playing.
I am not sure if there is a precedence for changing the result of a game that has been completed.
Forget about England's involvement for a minute. I am asking a serious question. If Russia get expelled after playing Slovakia, do Wales get a 3:0 win?

Yawn, really not much point in continuing any kind of debate with you after that, and don't kid yourself there is any subtle difference because there really isn't.

Sorry, I didn't know we were only allowed to ask questions if we support England. I will try and find the answer elsewhere.

Why would anyone get a 3-0 win? Is it in the rules that that would happen or are you just being hopeful? I would've thought you'd nullify any points/results that have already happened involving Russia and it would just become a 3 team group. Things would get really complicated though because of the 4 best 3rd place teams qualifying in this tournament.

I just found this article on it

http://www.joe.co.uk/sport/heres-why...uro-2016/66787

But why hide your anti-England stance behind some daft reason claiming there is a subtle difference, when really there isn't.

Ok I'll humour you by giving you an answer if Russia do get fully disqualified which means they then have to forfeit any subsequent match if the rules require that match to be shown as a 3:0 win to any team they would have been due to play. then yes that should happen.

The awarding of a 3:0 win is what happened in qualifying when there was trouble. It also the standard UEFA punishment for rule breaks.so I didn't make it up.
That article shows just how difficult it would be to have a fair settlement.

OK, I will explain the subtle difference. I am Celtic fan. Watching England in tournaments is, for me, like watching Rangers in Europe. I don't care if they win because it doesn't affect me or my team but I get a certain pleasure from seeing them lose.

Awarding the 3:0 wins is a minefield as has been pointed out in the article above. It doesn't just affect the teams in this group but all the other 3rd place teams too. Very difficult to find a fair solution.

Ah ok, fair enough.

Yes, it would be very hard to make it fair for everyone. I certainly hope it doesn't come to that, even if it has the potential to benefit England.

Kind of a bit childish then, combined with a bit of sour grapes because Scotland didn't qualify.


But if it happens, can't see it myself it's all a bit of a token gesture won't amount to anything especially it would cause problems UEFA ain't that stupid, corrupt maybe stupid no.

I'm a Spurs fan but when Arsenal, or any other British team, are playing in Europe, I will still support them. Equally I always want England to beat the other home nations but when they are not playing us I will be cheering them on as they are my neighbours.

Why do u get pleasure in England losing?

There is no difference between wanting England to lose and wanting their opponents to win.

I want all the home nations to do well