The root cause is being cited as the fact that there was no police inside the stadium to maintain the segregation between both sets of fans.

This incident does make it clear that it's not simply a case of automatically pointing the finger at English hooligans for the trouble that's occurred so far.

Russian ones.

russia HAVE to be banned after this

fans with balaclavas, thousands, rushing at the england fans

no police whatsoever

disgusting

Because of CCTV.

No mention of the in stadium events at all on ITV

But it can't be Russian fans charging, it's England supporters causing all the trouble. I read it on here.

there has just been a charge and fight between thousands of fans IN the stadium.

Russian "ultras" with balaclavas, charging regular england supporters.

Why isnt this mentioned at all?

Who on earth is going to travel to the russian world cup in 2 years?

england have been causing trouble outside the stadium thats happened, but tonight the russian fans were at fault.

Firstly it's not just the England fans.
Secondly it's a minority of the England fans out there.
Thirdly it not every tournament, just the ones close and easy to get to.
Fourthly I'm not defending any of these minority of England "fans" behaviour but the knee jerk reaction and instant reaction to completely blame ONLY the England side is embarrassing.

A flare was let off in the stadium and smoke bombs towards the end of the game. In the Russian end.
There's now attacks going on in the ground by Russian fans against England fans.

Let's not make the mistake of thinking this is ONLY and English problem. We have some scumbags that follow football in this country and start trouble but there are plenty of other scumbags more than ready to contribute from other countries around Europe.

They should all be condemned, whatever nationality they are. Knuckle dragging scum.

But you don't support England and so don't go to games so there's no need for the outrage.

im a huge football fan, like everyone here, im loving the tournament but i cannot follow england with that idiot in charge.

im outraged for the innocent fans, and the tournement itself

And if there are recriminatoins in club football.

ITV still not mentioning the violence!!!

If the OP actually read/watched/heard some eye witness accounts rather than creating inane threads they would already know that today's trouble was largely caused by organised groups of Russian fans seeking out England fans. We've obviously got some of the usual cretins over there but we've also got a reputation and opposition fans and locals see getting one over us as some sort of trophy and I suspect the robust policing doesn't help matters. Not an easy problem to solve.

zero policing in the stadium tonight

I imagine UEFA will take a very dim view of fighting inside the arena tonight. Violence inside the stadium during a major tournament is nearly unheard of.

Enough coverage on ITV for you yet Codey?

But equally is a lack of segregation and policing inside the stadium.

I don't envy UEFA having to sort this all out with the French police and authorities and the English and Russian FAs, I must say.

True, that was a big factor. I suppose nobody would have anticipated fighting inside a stadium at a big tournament though : I think this is the first time it's happened since England v Belgium at the Euros in 1980.

for the last few days a lairy bunch of drunk/drugged up less than 500 English holligans have been given it big licks in the port area, this has been beamed across the world and acted as an invite to all local thugs and Russians to come down to engage them. Unfortunately the Russians and locals have seen this as a free invite to fight with any fan in England shirts.

But it's only the England fans that have caused this.

Isn't that right?

And of course you know that the Russians only arrived later, and weren't instigating it from the start....

They need to wait for the next games and see whether trouble continues for Russia or England games or both.

england fans have been involved in everything, yes

but in the stadium tonight it was 100% russian violence, planned

the French and Uefa authorities do not seem to understand segregation and policing

madness

How did they manage to get in flares and fireworks? This of all tournaments it's shocking.

Nice 180.

The details hardly matter.

There is no doubt in my mind that we have just seen the last match in this tournament involving Russia and England.



Wales and Slovakia are through.

It was already made clear on the Thursday that it was England v Marseilles Ultras that were fighting, last night it was small groups of Russians and Marseilles fans fighting with the English. Today seen a big influx of hardcore Russian thugs to get involved.