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Sorry don't want people down south and press too think this xenophobic but it not a British Bloodbath it's English Hooligan Stupidity with Ruassia too the mix.Leave Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland out of it.
It is England and Russia fighting like apes. |
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How did they manage to get in flares and fireworks? This of all tournaments it's shocking.
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The details hardly matter.
There is no doubt in my mind that we have just seen the last match in this tournament involving Russia and England. ![]() Wales and Slovakia are through. |
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They get them in European grounds and I'm glad they still do. Creates a great sight.
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It is England and Russia get the fact Daily Express.
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Uefa won't have the balls to do that surely.
I have to say that my mind boggled when I saw the details of the fixture. I've been to Marseille for a french league match. I loved the city and the velodrome. But that was the site of violence in the past. It's a city with some troubles anyway. It is the most multicultural city in France which personally I like but it is not without tensions. It's just about the hottest venue in France. Russia is hardly in love with England. The fixture coincided with nationalism around the EU Referendum and the Queen's 90th birthday weekend. And then there was that business involving Chelsea supporters in Paris which upset many of the French. And the history of English problems which people remember. I don't think England fans have been mainly the problem here - it looks like neo Nazis from Russia and some people of ethnicity from the poorer parts of Marseille - but that sort of logic may not come into it when it comes to UEFA. |
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Sorry don't want people down south and press too think this xenophobic but it not a British Bloodbath it's English Hooligan Stupidity with Ruassia too the mix.Leave Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland out of it.
It is England and Russia fighting like apes. |
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The details hardly matter.
There is no doubt in my mind that we have just seen the last match in this tournament involving Russia and England. Admittedly they threatened to throw England out of the tournament, but there's a big difference between issuing the warning and taking the action. They might do the same thing in this instance - but I think UEFA might come down harder on the Russian FA given that the trouble caused by their fans took place inside the stadium rather than out on the street, where it's a more an issue for the French police. |
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There's reports in another thread that it's kicked off in Nice between Northern Irish and Polish fans.
The Poles were always going to have a go at the Northern Irish because of the attacks on Poles living there. |
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They get them in European grounds and I'm glad they still do. Creates a great sight.
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Several BBC reporters have said that they personally witnessed incidents of England fans behaving really badly in Marseilles today : one said that the vast majority of people throwing bottles at the police appeared to be English. So any suggestion that they were mainly the "victims" of attacks by Russians and French is probably inaccurate (no matter who the instigators were).
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The Poles were always going to have a go at the Northern Irish because of the attacks on Poles living there. this is madness are we witnessing the end of international tournament football? |
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you can hear the bottles raining down
this is madness are we witnessing the end of international tournament football? Enough with the melodrama. |
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The Poles were always going to have a go at the Northern Irish because of the attacks on Poles living there. https://twitter.com/NIFootballDaily/...51287822290944 |
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No, we're not.
Enough with the melodrama. |
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The Poles were always going to have a go at the Northern Irish because of the attacks on Poles living there. Beaten to it.
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you can hear the bottles raining down
this is madness are we witnessing the end of international tournament football? |
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you can hear the bottles raining down
this is madness are we witnessing the end of international tournament football? |
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In fairness to England supporters, I think it's the French and Russian fans that have been actively looking for trouble with them.
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which I think will result in behind closed door games for Russia in next qualifiers.
no qualifiers for them |
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Apparently it's more the Nice Ultras attacking both sets of fans rather than them each other
https://twitter.com/NIFootballDaily/...51287822290944 Quote:
It appears NI and Polish fans are fighting local Ultras. https://twitter.com/NIFootballDaily
Beaten to it. ![]() Quote:
if violence keeps happening IN and outside the grounds, what other options are there?
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I don't think the trouble is as bad as previous Euros it's just with mobiles it's all recorded and online within minutes, so gets more coverage. previous tournaments have seen hundreds of arrests daily. The big issue will be the attack inside the stadium, which I think will result in behind closed door games for Russia in next qualifiers.
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No, just a rise in hooliganism again.
hooliganism is on the rise, of that there is no doubt - it needs to be tacked at club level, which the FA have failed to do this year |
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Several BBC reporters have said that they personally witnessed incidents of England fans behaving really badly in Marseilles today : one said that the vast majority of people throwing bottles at the police appeared to be English. So any suggestion that they were mainly the "victims" of attacks by Russians and French is probably inaccurate (no matter who the instigators were).
There's got to be a reason why this spate of English-related hooliganism is happening at this tournament when it's been all but absent at other tournaments in the recent past. There was the usual talk before the tournament began about the issuing of banning orders, seizing of passports, spotters at the ports out of England looking out for known troublemakers - but that all seems to be a bit hollow now. |
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they are the hosts of the world cup!
no qualifiers for them |
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