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Old 11-06-2016, 22:56
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Sorry don't want people down south and press too think this xenophobic but it not a British Bloodbath it's English Hooligan Stupidity with Ruassia too the mix.Leave Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland out of it.

It is England and Russia fighting like apes.
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Old 11-06-2016, 22:57
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How did they manage to get in flares and fireworks? This of all tournaments it's shocking.
They get them in European grounds and I'm glad they still do. Creates a great sight.
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Old 11-06-2016, 22:57
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The details hardly matter.

There is no doubt in my mind that we have just seen the last match in this tournament involving Russia and England.



Wales and Slovakia are through.
Uefa won't have the balls to do that surely.
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Old 11-06-2016, 22:57
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They get them in European grounds and I'm glad they still do. Creates a great sight.
As in sell them inside the ground?
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Old 11-06-2016, 22:59
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It is England and Russia get the fact Daily Express.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:00
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Uefa won't have the balls to do that surely.
I regret I think they will do.

I have to say that my mind boggled when I saw the details of the fixture. I've been to Marseille for a french league match. I loved the city and the velodrome. But that was the site of violence in the past. It's a city with some troubles anyway. It is the most multicultural city in France which personally I like but it is not without tensions. It's just about the hottest venue in France. Russia is hardly in love with England. The fixture coincided with nationalism around the EU Referendum and the Queen's 90th birthday weekend. And then there was that business involving Chelsea supporters in Paris which upset many of the French. And the history of English problems which people remember.

I don't think England fans have been mainly the problem here - it looks like neo Nazis from Russia and some people of ethnicity from the poorer parts of Marseille - but that sort of logic may not come into it when it comes to UEFA.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:02
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Sorry don't want people down south and press too think this xenophobic but it not a British Bloodbath it's English Hooligan Stupidity with Ruassia too the mix.Leave Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland out of it.

It is England and Russia fighting like apes.
There's reports in another thread that it's kicked off in Nice between Northern Irish and Polish fans.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:04
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The details hardly matter.

There is no doubt in my mind that we have just seen the last match in this tournament involving Russia and England.
England fans rioted in the streets of Brussels during Euro 2000 and UEFA didn't throw England out of the tournament.

Admittedly they threatened to throw England out of the tournament, but there's a big difference between issuing the warning and taking the action.

They might do the same thing in this instance - but I think UEFA might come down harder on the Russian FA given that the trouble caused by their fans took place inside the stadium rather than out on the street, where it's a more an issue for the French police.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:06
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There's reports in another thread that it's kicked off in Nice between Northern Irish and Polish fans.
https://twitter.com/footbalIfights/s...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

The Poles were always going to have a go at the Northern Irish because of the attacks on Poles living there.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:06
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They get them in European grounds and I'm glad they still do. Creates a great sight.
Have you ever been stood near one, I have and it just really makes your eyes hurt, and you can't but help to cough, they might look good on the tv, but in all reality they are bloody annoying, and should be banned.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:07
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Several BBC reporters have said that they personally witnessed incidents of England fans behaving really badly in Marseilles today : one said that the vast majority of people throwing bottles at the police appeared to be English. So any suggestion that they were mainly the "victims" of attacks by Russians and French is probably inaccurate (no matter who the instigators were).
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:08
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The Poles were always going to have a go at the Northern Irish because of the attacks on Poles living there.
you can hear the bottles raining down

this is madness

are we witnessing the end of international tournament football?
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:12
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you can hear the bottles raining down

this is madness

are we witnessing the end of international tournament football?
No, we're not.

Enough with the melodrama.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:12
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The Poles were always going to have a go at the Northern Irish because of the attacks on Poles living there.
Apparently it's more the Nice Ultras attacking both sets of fans rather than them each other

https://twitter.com/NIFootballDaily/...51287822290944
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:12
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No, we're not.

Enough with the melodrama.
if violence keeps happening IN and outside the grounds, what other options are there?
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:13
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The Poles were always going to have a go at the Northern Irish because of the attacks on Poles living there.
It appears NI and Polish fans are fighting local Ultras. https://twitter.com/NIFootballDaily

Beaten to it.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:15
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you can hear the bottles raining down

this is madness

are we witnessing the end of international tournament football?
I don't think the trouble is as bad as previous Euros it's just with mobiles it's all recorded and online within minutes, so gets more coverage. previous tournaments have seen hundreds of arrests daily. The big issue will be the attack inside the stadium, which I think will result in behind closed door games for Russia in next qualifiers.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:15
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you can hear the bottles raining down

this is madness

are we witnessing the end of international tournament football?
No, just a rise in hooliganism again.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:16
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In fairness to England supporters, I think it's the French and Russian fans that have been actively looking for trouble with them.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:16
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which I think will result in behind closed door games for Russia in next qualifiers.
they are the hosts of the world cup!

no qualifiers for them
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:17
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Apparently it's more the Nice Ultras attacking both sets of fans rather than them each other

https://twitter.com/NIFootballDaily/...51287822290944
It appears NI and Polish fans are fighting local Ultras. https://twitter.com/NIFootballDaily

Beaten to it.
Well that is interesting.

if violence keeps happening IN and outside the grounds, what other options are there?
Bedwetting isn't going to help things.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:17
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I don't think the trouble is as bad as previous Euros it's just with mobiles it's all recorded and online within minutes, so gets more coverage. previous tournaments have seen hundreds of arrests daily. The big issue will be the attack inside the stadium, which I think will result in behind closed door games for Russia in next qualifiers.
They are hosting the next World Cup, so they don't have any qualifiers.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:17
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No, just a rise in hooliganism again.
but could that lead to the end of this sort of tournement - could it spread to say the CL final?

hooliganism is on the rise, of that there is no doubt - it needs to be tacked at club level, which the FA have failed to do this year
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:17
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Several BBC reporters have said that they personally witnessed incidents of England fans behaving really badly in Marseilles today : one said that the vast majority of people throwing bottles at the police appeared to be English. So any suggestion that they were mainly the "victims" of attacks by Russians and French is probably inaccurate (no matter who the instigators were).
If that's the case, the one thing the authorities and the FA will urgently want to find out is whether the trouble is being caused by "existing" hooligans already known to the police who have managed to slink through to France undetected or new groups who were not known and identified beforehand.

There's got to be a reason why this spate of English-related hooliganism is happening at this tournament when it's been all but absent at other tournaments in the recent past.

There was the usual talk before the tournament began about the issuing of banning orders, seizing of passports, spotters at the ports out of England looking out for known troublemakers - but that all seems to be a bit hollow now.
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Old 11-06-2016, 23:18
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they are the hosts of the world cup!

no qualifiers for them
Damn you beat me to it!
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