Sorry don't want people down south and press too think this xenophobic but it not a British Bloodbath it's English Hooligan Stupidity with Ruassia too the mix.Leave Scotland,Wales and Northern Ireland out of it.

It is England and Russia fighting like apes.

They get them in European grounds and I'm glad they still do. Creates a great sight.

Uefa won't have the balls to do that surely.

As in sell them inside the ground?

It is England and Russia get the fact Daily Express.

I regret I think they will do.

I have to say that my mind boggled when I saw the details of the fixture. I've been to Marseille for a french league match. I loved the city and the velodrome. But that was the site of violence in the past. It's a city with some troubles anyway. It is the most multicultural city in France which personally I like but it is not without tensions. It's just about the hottest venue in France. Russia is hardly in love with England. The fixture coincided with nationalism around the EU Referendum and the Queen's 90th birthday weekend. And then there was that business involving Chelsea supporters in Paris which upset many of the French. And the history of English problems which people remember.

I don't think England fans have been mainly the problem here - it looks like neo Nazis from Russia and some people of ethnicity from the poorer parts of Marseille - but that sort of logic may not come into it when it comes to UEFA.

There's reports in another thread that it's kicked off in Nice between Northern Irish and Polish fans.

England fans rioted in the streets of Brussels during Euro 2000 and UEFA didn't throw England out of the tournament.

Admittedly they threatened to throw England out of the tournament, but there's a big difference between issuing the warning and taking the action.

They might do the same thing in this instance - but I think UEFA might come down harder on the Russian FA given that the trouble caused by their fans took place inside the stadium rather than out on the street, where it's a more an issue for the French police.

https://twitter.com/footbalIfights/s...rc=twsrc%5Etfw

The Poles were always going to have a go at the Northern Irish because of the attacks on Poles living there.

Have you ever been stood near one, I have and it just really makes your eyes hurt, and you can't but help to cough, they might look good on the tv, but in all reality they are bloody annoying, and should be banned.

Several BBC reporters have said that they personally witnessed incidents of England fans behaving really badly in Marseilles today : one said that the vast majority of people throwing bottles at the police appeared to be English. So any suggestion that they were mainly the "victims" of attacks by Russians and French is probably inaccurate (no matter who the instigators were).

you can hear the bottles raining down

this is madness

are we witnessing the end of international tournament football?

No, we're not.

Enough with the melodrama.

Apparently it's more the Nice Ultras attacking both sets of fans rather than them each other

https://twitter.com/NIFootballDaily/...51287822290944

if violence keeps happening IN and outside the grounds, what other options are there?

It appears NI and Polish fans are fighting local Ultras. https://twitter.com/NIFootballDaily

Beaten to it.

I don't think the trouble is as bad as previous Euros it's just with mobiles it's all recorded and online within minutes, so gets more coverage. previous tournaments have seen hundreds of arrests daily. The big issue will be the attack inside the stadium, which I think will result in behind closed door games for Russia in next qualifiers.

No, just a rise in hooliganism again.

In fairness to England supporters, I think it's the French and Russian fans that have been actively looking for trouble with them.

they are the hosts of the world cup!

no qualifiers for them

Well that is interesting.


Bedwetting isn't going to help things.

They are hosting the next World Cup, so they don't have any qualifiers.

but could that lead to the end of this sort of tournement - could it spread to say the CL final?

hooliganism is on the rise, of that there is no doubt - it needs to be tacked at club level, which the FA have failed to do this year

If that's the case, the one thing the authorities and the FA will urgently want to find out is whether the trouble is being caused by "existing" hooligans already known to the police who have managed to slink through to France undetected or new groups who were not known and identified beforehand.

There's got to be a reason why this spate of English-related hooliganism is happening at this tournament when it's been all but absent at other tournaments in the recent past.

There was the usual talk before the tournament began about the issuing of banning orders, seizing of passports, spotters at the ports out of England looking out for known troublemakers - but that all seems to be a bit hollow now.

Damn you beat me to it!