UEFA are toothless

they should have threatened this days ago, and disqualified rissia last night after the in stadium violence.

I have no idea what the agenda behind it was.

But it's undeniable that the blame was immediately placed solely at the door of the English before any kind of clear picture could be formed. And many just went along with it.

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Yes, but if it's considered a dangerous security issue, it'll be taken out of their hands.
Maybe because it's Marseille, they've been slower to act. If it had happened on the streets of Paris, they surely couldn't have ignored it ? There's a genuine terrorist threat, it wouldn't surprise me at all if something happens before the tournament is over. They can't control the streets while there are rampaging thugs roaming around.

German and Ukrainian fans fighting with each other in Lille now.

Be the English fans fault though.

Thanks Obama

Probably because Ukraine has historically been part of Russia for centuries, whereas England and Germany where never part of the same state (except the EU ).

this is getting stupid now.

i asked a question before, is this the end of tournament football?

if fans cannot stop fighting and trying to kill themselves, its inevitable

Why would it be the end of tournament football? Hooliganism isn't a new thing.

Far from it : the World Cup in 2014 was a wonderful success for example

it just cannot be allowed to carry on, yet more fighting today.

at some ppoint you have to say its not worth it

UEFA have no right to ban teams for trouble on the streets. They can only do it if there is trouble in the stadium and it's environs.

I don't think they will stop anything unless all 24 teams kick off..

They will just punish the countries involved..

And that will generally be a fine/games behind closed doors.

I am sorry, you are completely incorect. Your "no right" argument seems like a schoolyard argument.

UEFA directives hold the appropriate football authority to account if their fans misbehave inside OR outside the stadia.

Where are the statememnts from the FA, roy and the england captain?

From the BBC website: "Uefa said it had not taken any action against the English FA, as skirmishes involving England fans before kick-off fell outside its remit."

I wasn't making a schoolyard point, just reporting a fact.

why havent the FA, roy and the england captain come out condemning the conduct of some english fans?

I think you are confusing me with someone who gives a flying one about England! No-one cheered louder (probably) than me when Russia scored last night. I was just stating a fact.

So you cheered louder than the Russia fans?

Well, I didn't have a decibel meter on me so I can't be sure but you get the picture.

Saw this on my Twitter feed just now.

https://mobile.twitter.com/_FootyTal...42740226023424

Apparently some neo Nazis were spotted.

You sounded pretty sure in you're previous comment to be fair.

When do Scotland play?

Just to keep you happy I have edited my post. You can worry about something else now.

Sounds like you care a little too much.

I was just delighted to get 40 points on the BBC Predictor Comp.

Ah, understandable.

I posted this in the other thread in GD:

They had the opportunity 4 years ago with the Russians.
Apart from a fine and suspended points deduction they did nothing. The suspended points deduction was only in place until the end of qualifying for this tournament.
Now that suspension has run out they've just repeated the exact same infringements they were sanctioned for last time round!

Here's an article from the time of the last Euro tournament:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/teams/russia/9329741/Euro-2012-Russia-handed-suspended-six-point-deduction-for-2016-European-Championships-qualifiers.html