Originally Posted by
jack_blair:
“perhaps she hasn't provided proof that the baby is his.
She seems more interested in finding someone else than Jimbob having any input, and she's said she wants to do it on her own anyway !
The forum member deleted their post, and only reason i saw what they'd said is because you replied to it, or it would have been forgotten. Your grievances with a FM on another social media site has nothing to do with here,
. We're happy discussing road kill,cushions and EVIL's booze. 
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I didn't know the post was deleted, I just went to check and yes it has gone now but most of yesterday it was up. It was posted about 3pm on Tuesday and the last time I checked was about 7 last night so it was up a good 28 hours and in that time lots of new requests to the group when we haven't had any in the previous weeks, so it's obvious some are from this thread or readers of the thread and possibly people who are not fans of S&J but just want to join to take the pee.
I just wanted to get my point across but I'm happy to leave it now and move on.
Originally Posted by jack_blair:
“what they said to eachother on CBB means nothing now, they've tried going out together, that was toxic, all they did was row , loaf around in bed and post silly VTs of themselves on social media, she hasn't worked since February, he's just doing PAs, his home's in Dublin, hers in Liverpool, it was never going to work, not to mention the bruises and injuries both sustained.
If she's pregnant and it's his , i can see her emotionally blackmailing him, we've seen how spiteful she can be on twitter to him and those he spends his time with, so i don't think it will be easy for him to maintain any successful communication with her should he want access if the baby is his-,it will all be on her terms.”
Him being in Dublin and her in Liverpool was never a problem when he wanted his end away though was it? And it's only a short hop across the water. I do see how some can view the relationship as toxic. There were problems for sure but that's because both are passionate alphas. Out of the relationship this still applies, both at loggerheads because of the depth of feeling and unfinished business.
Originally Posted by
Heatherbell:
“I don't agree with any of that actually , soz .
He said all the things she wanted to hear to get (successfully as it happens) into her knickers . He's a player, that's what players do . Promise the world till they achieve their needs . More fool her for cheating on mySam with a bloke she knew nothing about . He went along for the ride, no sexual pun intended , and he nodded and agreed with all her fantasies of the house with the white picket fence and the babies waving to daddy as he arrives home from another day at the office clutching flowers for mommy and new shoes for baby . Look at him for goodness sake 
. That fantasy was never going to come true, like ever . She's a mug and I've no sympathy because he did to her what she did to mySam so it was/is karma in action . If a baby appears then that was her choice since it's her body carrying it and she will be the ultimate carer for it . Maybe, just maybe, if she wasn't playing 'hide the scan' games with him and ranting and taunting him on SM he might have come to heel . But she's not known for truthfulness so I'm not surprised at the general disbelief (him included) that there is a baby anyway .
As for saying he's still infatuated with her ?
There really aren't enough smileys to deal with that fantasy .
That dog app is fashionable, as is the funny psychic app . Everyone is using them . There is no logic in saying that because he has used a common trendy app that she has used , that that means he hearts her totally forever more .
The tatts and the pretty girls look nothing like her, other than that they are females with two eyes, a nose and a mouth .
In the end , yes he's a player, yes she's a mug , but I can't condemn anyone (male or female) for walking away from a toxic relationship that was deteriorating rapidly into alleged violence (whichever partner was guilty).
In my opinion he finally did the right thing and if she stops playing games over her alleged pregnancy he might just prove to be a good dad if the DNA tests prove him to be the father .But I doubt she'll let him because she is too vengeful, look at her trashing mySam when the guy did nothing to deserve it . Just so she could justify hopping into bed with a stranger just days after being introduced .
I bet mySam has been looking pretty damned good in her wobbly head as she sits watching soppy movies all alone these days . Ah well, he upgraded and is very happy, so someone came out of the mess well eventually . Nice to see the good guy win the pretty young girl and ride off happily into the sunset leaving all the old crap and chaos of a cheating ex behind him .”
I do agree with the bit about him being a player. He promised her the world and she fell for it, sacrificing her own relationship for his promises. Him knowing how broken she was made that all the more callous and sinister that he targeted someone who was needy and emotionally vulnerable. In fact it is downright cruel.
The infatuation is subjective to how you see it. I see him trying to get her attention to get her to react so he can then say look at the state of her and win points.
It's obvious you have a soft spot for Sam but I don't think he is a saint in all this. To his credit he kept quiet about it all which made him look the better person. The truth is we don't know that he didn't cheat or use her for money as S implied. He certainly never denied it.
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nothing in there, he doesn't say much 
it's starting already...my tummy is bubbling
