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EVIL-MONKEY
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Say nothing Hev . Keep it zipped .”

I had trouble *holds breath, bite tounge* keeping it together when typing that!
Heatherbell
06-08-2016
Biggins .
Is that it ? Seriously ?
SP15
06-08-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Biggins .
Is that it ? Seriously ?”

It's not just me thinking that then, thought I had missed the reason.
Heatherbell
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by SP15:
“It's not just me thinking that then, thought I had missed the reason.”

So he has a crazy theory and possibly wears a tin foil hat at home . Why not just leave his craziness out there . The more they put MIGHT CAUSE OFFENSE !! the more some people rub their hands in glee and salivate on their keyboards in the rush to condemn and don a mantle of victimhood berating him .
I dunno , maybe I have it wrong and I mean no offence to anyone reading this , but as far as I'm concerned it was just Biggins being a twonk again . Nothing new in that .
Plus Renee was the one debating and agreeing with him , yet she is still in there .
Renee said tonight that doing this gig is the hardest thing she's ever done and never again , yet Biggins is 20 years older and was moseying along like an old trooper . I hope he gets his fee , he flippin' earned it .
SP15
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“So he has a crazy theory and possibly wears a tin foil hat at home . Why not just leave his craziness out there . The more they put MIGHT CAUSE OFFENSE !! the more some people rub their hands in glee and salivate on their keyboards in the rush to condemn and don a mantle of victimhood berating him .
I dunno , maybe I have it wrong and I mean no offence to anyone reading this , but as far as I'm concerned it was just Biggins being a twonk again . Nothing new in that .
Plus Renee was the one debating and agreeing with him , yet she is still in there .
Renee said tonight that doing this gig is the hardest thing she's ever done and never again , yet Biggins is 20 years older and was moseying along like an old trooper . I hope he gets his fee , he flippin' earned it .”

I'd heard that theory many years ago and the bit Renee threw in about CIA. it's not new and intelligent people would dismiss it but then this is BB and obviously they think their viewers are easily offended. I was more offended over the spitting and them allowing him to eat it

His reaction to the nomination......he is going to get even nastier but Lewis is going to look after Frankie in case Bear tries to hurt him.
Rogana Josh
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by SP15:
“I'd heard that theory many years ago and the bit Renee threw in about CIA. it's not new and intelligent people would dismiss it but then this is BB and obviously they think their viewers are easily offended. I was more offended over the spitting and them allowing him to eat it

His reaction to the nomination......he is going to get even nastier but Lewis is going to look after Frankie in case Bear tries to hurt him.”

I heard that whole theory a few years ago too, SP and I can't understand why people are offended by it as its' not a secret its in the public domain
Panderoona
07-08-2016
Biggins has admitted himself in an interview the truth. Not only did he make those two idiotic comments about bisexuals, but he also made a "joke" about Katie being Jewish. A reference to the nazi concentration camps. BB did allude to this in the DR but never showed it. Biggins himself has told the truth.
Heatherbell
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Rogana Josh:
“I heard that whole theory a few years ago too, SP and I can't understand why people are offended by it as its' not a secret its in the public domain ”

Exactly . It's David Icke stuff and been done and dusted over endlessly . It's old hat , like Biggins himself .
I think he was thrown to the wolves to be honest , for publicity purposes . I'm sure others have said similarly offensive things in the past . This is just a publicity stunt and frankly Biggins is the victim, not Katie the grey ghost woman in there who thinks that nomming the horrendous Bear has been the "worst experience of my life" . Is she wise in the head ? If she thinks nomming a creepo who's been terrorising the whole house is "The worst experience of my life" then how on Earth does she choose which of her exciting grey clothes to wear each morning , or what to eat for lunch ?
In the Sun interview Biggins couldn't be more apologetic and accepts he was in the wrong but some won't be happy until they draw blood .
And I hate BB patronising us by withholding convos they fear might offend us . I'm chunky, I'm blonde, I'm Scottish, my extended family are Irish and If I go back far enough I have Spanish blood in me .........so go for it . Throw whatever you like at me on any of those points . If it's not said in pure anger then "frankly my dear I don't give a damn ."


Soz for the rant . Nah , not really soz I'm off to bed . Goodnight all .🙋


http://imgur.com/a/m3Am4
bangle1
07-08-2016
Well that was ridiculous! Biggins is this year's sacrificial lamb. Like Tia Tequila & Andrew the kick boxer before, Biggins has been removed from the house as it generates headlines for the show.

Last year Winston claimed that gay parenting was child abuse, he repeated this over and over and yet was not removed by Big Brother. I found that more offensive than what Biggins was saying about bisexuals.

As for the AIDS comments, his views have been widely reported, theorised and discredited by the scientific community. Are they ill informed, yes. Are they offensive to me, no, and I say that as someone who has been HIV+ for 12 years.

If the producers are saying that the previous comments warranted his removal, he should have been removed at that time.

Why can't Big Brother let the public decide what they find offensive? They should step in to stop violence but the strong warning placed at the beginning of each segment advising that strong & offensive language may be used, should suffice. Ever since the Shilpa Shetty incident, the producers have lost their balls!
SP15
07-08-2016
Conspiracy theory alert.

It was all planned from the moment Biggins agreed to go in, most probs already had pay cheque in bank from slush fund. He goes in makes some stupid comments, his choice of topic, viewers outraged (well some of them, minority of them) headlines, chuck Biggins out, more headlines and Biggins gets interviews galore saying sorry, it was taken out of context etc, generates more headlines for BB and channel 5.

Will it harm Biggins, maybe for a week or two, he only did it for the money not to get work or self promote.

What annoys me is that what was said before he said to Katie about showers, in what context was his comment made.?

Morning all, hope all is well in your part of the world.
Flowes
07-08-2016
Biggins interview, personally I'm glad he got the boot, it's fine having an opinion i.e. his theories on bisexuals etc but to make that sort of "joke" to a young Jewish girl....I've never understood his popularity and think he has a mean streak

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...t-him-the-axe/
Rogana Josh
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by SP15:
“Conspiracy theory alert.

It was all planned from the moment Biggins agreed to go in, most probs already had pay cheque in bank from slush fund. He goes in makes some stupid comments, his choice of topic, viewers outraged (well some of them, minority of them) headlines, chuck Biggins out, more headlines and Biggins gets interviews galore saying sorry, it was taken out of context etc, generates more headlines for BB and channel 5.

Will it harm Biggins, maybe for a week or two, he only did it for the money not to get work or self promote.

What annoys me is that what was said before he said to Katie about showers, in what context was his comment made .?

Morning all, hope all is well in your part of the world.”

Sunny for now but windy as hell, SP . Sick of all this bad press for Biggin's who has never been my favourite anyway lame excuses to evict him.
We probably guessed that they want a reality TV winner make a chat into a hero rubbish programme now
Rogana Josh
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Rogana Josh:
“Sunny for now but windy as hell, SP . Sick of all this bad press for Biggin's who has never been my favourite anyway lame excuses to evict him.
We probably guessed that they want a reality TV winner make a chat into a hero rubbish programme now ”

I was using mobile keyboard that word is chav not chat
Its the Beard show they're forcing on us every night I don't wish this on anyone but just hope he is removed under a cloud .
SP15
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“Biggins interview, personally I'm glad he got the boot, it's fine having an opinion i.e. his theories on bisexuals etc but to make that sort of "joke" to a young Jewish girl....I've never understood his popularity and think he has a mean streak

https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...t-him-the-axe/”

Biggins had earlier made a concentration camp “joke” to the Jewish former X Factor star, 30, as fellow housemates rowed in the bathroom.

He said: “You better be careful or they’ll be putting you in a shower and taking you to a room.”

The Panto star now admits that he was making a joke about Nazis, who gassed Jews in shower blocks.
He said: “I suppose I was, yes. But it didn’t occur to me that’s what I was referring to.”


Yes I read that but what happened to make him make the comment, what was said?
To me it reads that he made the comment to a person and then the pc bunch picked it up because it was Katie who happens to be Jewish. if he had said it to any of the others would it have been construed in the same way?
SP15
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Rogana Josh:
“I was using mobile keyboard that word is chav not chat
Its the Bear(d) show they're forcing on us every night I don't wish this on anyone but just hope he is removed under a cloud .”

have the same weather as you, humid though.

'The Chosen One' will win even if the public vote him out. there will be a twist and he will get control of the house from the 'secret room'.
EVIL-MONKEY
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Exactly . It's David Icke stuff and been done and dusted over endlessly . It's old hat , like Biggins himself .
I think he was thrown to the wolves to be honest , for publicity purposes . I'm sure others have said similarly offensive things in the past . This is just a publicity stunt and frankly Biggins is the victim, not Katie the grey ghost woman in there who thinks that nomming the horrendous Bear has been the "worst experience of my life" . Is she wise in the head ? If she thinks nomming a creepo who's been terrorising the whole house is "The worst experience of my life" then how on Earth does she choose which of her exciting grey clothes to wear each morning , or what to eat for lunch ?
In the Sun interview Biggins couldn't be more apologetic and accepts he was in the wrong but some won't be happy until they draw blood .
And I hate BB patronising us by withholding convos they fear might offend us . I'm chunky, I'm blonde, I'm Scottish, my extended family are Irish and If I go back far enough I have Spanish blood in me .........so go for it . Throw whatever you like at me on any of those points . If it's not said in pure anger then "frankly my dear I don't give a damn ."


Soz for the rant . Nah , not really soz I'm off to bed . Goodnight all .🙋


http://imgur.com/a/m3Am4”

You forgot OLD!
Heatherbell
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by EVIL-MONKEY:
“You forgot OLD! ”

I bloody feel old , so go for it pal . Take your best shot .🔫
I do think that BB are in the wrong here . That 'joke' thing was days before and he'd been called to the DR over it already and agreed whole heartedly to apologise to Katie, which he did profusely , and she accepted, hugged him and was fine with it . Well as fine as she can ever be . Never saw such a whiny person in BB before . She MUST have complained to BB , she must have . There is no way they picked out that tiny bit of convo which was going on during some arguing in the bathroom . I can't stand Biggins , but Katie has been a massive disappointment . Always crying , rarely smiles , dresses in beiges and greys . I do like a bit of beige myself to be fair to beige, but soppy wet bores like Katie give it a bad press , . Anyway this will rumble on for some time .
I must say I laughed at Renee trying to get a logical answer from desperado cougar Saira on why she chose HeavyD for the nom rather than Bear . Apparently just the night before she'd been ripping lumps out of him along with the rest of them over his terrorising tactics etc (so basically making a silent contract to nom him I think .As they do). Saira was bare faced bull shining in excusing herself but Renee and Aubrey made her look stupid . Which of course she is re Bear .

Funny old day here , very overcast and very windy again . Bye bye summer I think .

Medical report ➕. Back is slightly better today . Getting there . But IBS has kicked off , oh deep joy 🚽 . S'alright , best get everything over with in one go and the IBS bouts only last about 5 days for me these days .
Heatherbell
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by bangle1:
“Well that was ridiculous! Biggins is this year's sacrificial lamb. Like Tia Tequila & Andrew the kick boxer before, Biggins has been removed from the house as it generates headlines for the show.

Last year Winston claimed that gay parenting was child abuse, he repeated this over and over and yet was not removed by Big Brother. I found that more offensive than what Biggins was saying about bisexuals.

As for the AIDS comments, his views have been widely reported, theorised and discredited by the scientific community. Are they ill informed, yes. Are they offensive to me, no, and I say that as someone who has been HIV+ for 12 years.

If the producers are saying that the previous comments warranted his removal, he should have been removed at that time.

Why can't Big Brother let the public decide what they find offensive? They should step in to stop violence but the strong warning placed at the beginning of each segment advising that strong & offensive language may be used, should suffice. Ever since the Shilpa Shetty incident, the producers have lost their balls!”

Spot on .
As for the BIB , I can't believe how the Aids/HIV issue has moved along over the years. It used to be considered a death sentence at one time and the theories over it were hysterical , as in mass hysteria not humourous .
They should rebrand BB as Super BB Nanny these days and it's so patronising . We aren't all tightly corseted pearl clutchers who dissolve in a puddle of tears at anything offensive to our delicate sensibilities . Well Evil is , but he masks it well behind a butch facade . And I could swear Jack mentioned using smelling salts on occasion .
Rogana Josh
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by SP15:
“have the same weather as you, humid though.

'The Chosen One' will win even if the public vote him out. there will be a twist and he will get control of the house from the 'secret room'.”


I can't stand the guy and if he does I'll be finished with BB and CBB too chavvy now.SP light rain now
Rogana Josh
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“Spot on .
As for the BIB , I can't believe how the Aids/HIV issue has moved along over the years. It used to be considered a death sentence at one time and the theories over it were hysterical , as in mass hysteria not humourous .
They should rebrand BB as Super BB Nanny these days and it's so patronising . We aren't all tightly corseted pearl clutchers who dissolve in a puddle of tears at anything offensive to our delicate sensibilities . Well Evil is , but he masks it well behind a butch facade . And I could swear Jack mentioned using smelling salts on occasion .”

Was Katie actually offended? Heather, I suppose she was, but surely she can take a wee bit of a joke and I know its not a joke, but sensibilities being carried too far now, or is it just because we can laugh at ourselves
Flowes
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by SP15:
“Biggins had earlier made a concentration camp “joke” to the Jewish former X Factor star, 30, as fellow housemates rowed in the bathroom.

He said: “You better be careful or they’ll be putting you in a shower and taking you to a room.”

The Panto star now admits that he was making a joke about Nazis, who gassed Jews in shower blocks.
He said: “I suppose I was, yes. But it didn’t occur to me that’s what I was referring to.”


Yes I read that but what happened to make him make the comment, what was said?
To me it reads that he made the comment to a person and then the pc bunch picked it up because it was Katie who happens to be Jewish. if he had said it to any of the others would it have been construed in the same way?”



BIB 1 not sure that they did given it wasn't aired it was leaked from what I read hence the delay between it happening and him being removed. They were protecting him from a backlash initially by not airing it.

BIB 2 I'm sure it would.
Heatherbell
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Flowes:
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BIB 1 not sure that they did given it wasn't aired it was leaked from what I read hence the delay between it happening and him being removed. They were protecting him from a backlash initially by not airing it.

BIB 2 I'm sure it would.”

I disagree Flowes .
One of the things Biggins said (and it was one brief line) was that "Katie is a very sensitive girl and has issues"
All I can say is "No sheet Sherlock " and fair play to the obnoxious Biggins, were I in his position I'd be listing her melt downs over nonsensical things in there .
She's a mess of insecurities . Her face is tripping her 24/7 and Ricky wastes half his day comforting her , trying to cheer her up and giving her neck endless massages . She's an emotional vampire sucking all the good stuff out of her surroundings and regurgitating it all as gloom and doom . I always visualise her with a cartoon black cloud hovering over her head . The phantom at the feast .
Seriously , saying "That was the hardest decision of my life " about nomming the Baby Bear . Really ? She has led a very sheltered life then .
Flowes
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Heatherbell:
“I disagree Flowes .
One of the things Biggins said (and it was one brief line) was that "Katie is a very sensitive girl and has issues"
All I can say is "No sheet Sherlock " and fair play to the obnoxious Biggins, were I in his position I'd be listing her melt downs over nonsensical things in there .
She's a mess of insecurities . Her face is tripping her 24/7 and Ricky wastes half his day comforting her , trying to cheer her up and giving her neck endless massages . She's an emotional vampire sucking all the good stuff out of her surroundings and regurgitating it all as gloom and doom . I always visualise her with a cartoon black cloud hovering over her head . The phantom at the feast .
Seriously , saying "That was the hardest decision of my life " about nomming the Baby Bear . Really ? She has led a very sheltered life then .”

Would he have said it to anyone other than Katie?

Does it matter whether she has issues or is sensitive? She's not the reason he was removed. It's what he said that's got him removed, once it was out he'd made that sort of joke there was no choice for BB.

I'm far from a Katie fan but I don't think this is about her.
Heatherbell
07-08-2016
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“Would he have said it to anyone other than Katie?

Does it matter whether she has issues or is sensitive? She's not the reason he was removed. It's what he said that's got him removed, once it was out he'd made that sort of joke there was no choice for BB.

I'm far from a Katie fan but I don't think this is about her.”

Yes I think he would , but possibly tailored to their ethnicity .
He's just a version of Alf Garnett and assumes that everyone is OK with him if it's done with humour . Most are , but Katie is clearly too fragile .
She is one of the reasons he was removed actually . Had that not happened with her getting hysterical then the latest thing might have been just another warning . So yeah , it is about her when she is clearly not coping well in there and it's causing this kind of mess .
Rogana Josh
07-08-2016
I don't know how she's coping with the threatening spectacle of Bear in the house all day every day. So if she's all that sensitive, why has she not complained about Bear or is it all OK ,because she's always been pals with that crowd. I know she nommed him, but the apology was over the top,
I would have said its you, mate, and f*ck you!
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