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Will Wales Beat England?
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Schmiznurf
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“England couldn't beat Russia ----- Wales beat Slovakia ---- Slovakia beat Russia

Not looking good for England to beat Wales on that basis.”

Hah, we can only hope.
sparkie70
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I don't understand why people are saying Wales are better than England, just because they got a better result in their game, it's like some people are incredibly fickle.

I thought England played better than Wales and deserved to win in their match. I also think Slovakia looked quite poor against Wales, whilst Russia weren't exactly stellar, I would still say Slovakia are the weakest team in the group.”

But if England draw tommorow then i can see Slovakia being very happy as they only need a draw. If England win then both will be happy with a draw in their group games.
celesti
15-06-2016
That basis very rarely follows through.
pxd867
15-06-2016
Despite what some of the taffs have been saying recently (Wales have proved that it's not only the "big" nations who can be arrogant) England do have a (slightly) better team than Wales in terms of overall quality and depth of squad, although Wales have admittedly closed the gap recently. It will be a tight game and Eddie Munster is a quality player who could win the game by himself for Wales but overall I'd go for England, given their superior tournament experience. It's weird how it seems to be the Welsh who are acting like England used to in the past, where a few good results suddenly meant they could beat anyone on their day
axlgod
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by pxd867:
“Despite what some of the taffs have been saying recently (Wales have proved that it's not only the "big" nations who can be arrogant) England do have a (slightly) better team than Wales in terms of overall quality and depth of squad, although Wales have admittedly closed the gap recently. It will be a tight game and Eddie Munster is a quality player who could win the game by himself for Wales but overall I'd go for England, given their superior tournament experience. It's weird how it seems to be the Welsh who are acting like England used to in the past, where a few good results suddenly meant they could beat anyone on their day ”

Eddie Munster - the best thing I've heard all day - genuinely laughing out loud, brilliant!!! 😂😂😂
pxd867
15-06-2016
He's got a tan and grew his hair but he'll always be Eddie Imagine him in an England shirt though
Whitehouse95
15-06-2016
I think it will be a draw or England will beat Wales, but it will a a close-run thing either way.

I just hope that England fans and the media don't start to hype England up if they beat Wales and then go on to beat Slovakia. Thankfully we've been more restrained in recent years.
mb@2day
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by pxd867:
“He's got a tan and grew his hair but he'll always be Eddie Imagine him in an England shirt though”

Probably wouldn't get picked for a game though , Real Madrid gallactico or not...............
Matt35
15-06-2016
All this talk about none of England players getting in Welsh squad is just them trying to rile the England players. Everyone knows only bale would get in England squad. How many England players would get in Welsh squad, well only bale would keep his place.
celesti
15-06-2016
Ramsey would quite comfortably get in an England squad too.
Schmiznurf
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by mb@2day:
“Probably wouldn't get picked for a game though , Real Madrid gallactico or not...............”

Bale is better than any in the England squad though, shame the same can't be said about the rest.
Bosox
15-06-2016
Given the state of our defence Ashley Williams would walk into the squad and maybe the 1st XI as well.

But even if England have more talent on paper it doesn't matter because they seem to have forgotten how to perform at tournaments. England haven't won any of their last 5 tournament games.
DUNDEEBOY
15-06-2016
If it's a draw tomorrow really puts the pressure on two points as qualification would be touch and go
Ænima
15-06-2016
I'll say one thing. If we go 1-0 up against Wales, then sit back thinking 1 goal is enough, i'll ****ing scream!
Bosox
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I'll say one thing. If we go 1-0 up against Wales, then sit back thinking 1 goal is enough, i'll ****ing scream! ”

The last time England scored more than one goal in a tournament game was seven games ago. Given Bale is basically a lock to score that would have to change tomorrow if England are to win. I'd love to see it but right now it seems unlikely.
Ænima
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“The last time England scored more than one goal in a tournament game was seven games ago. Given Bale is basically a lock to score that would have to change tomorrow if England are to win. I'd love to see it but right now it seems unlikely.”

I know We never seem to learn that lesson, I think it's England's biggest weakness in all honesty. In attack, we looked almost as good as Germany, but the Germans didn't sit back so deep when they scored their first. England continuing to think 1 goal is enough, time and time again it's proved a shitty strategy, and even on the odd times when it does work, it feels like England scrape a win, because you have to sit through half the match watching shots rain down on us.
Eurostar
15-06-2016
I wasn't overly impressed with Wales' win over Slovakia. Great team spirit certainly but it was a very workmanlike performance and they were a tad lucky with the second goal. They'll need to improve I think to take anything out of the England game.
tiger2000
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“England couldn't beat Russia ----- Wales beat Slovakia ---- Slovakia beat Russia

Not looking good for England to beat Wales on that basis.”

...and England beat both Germany and France in the last 6 months so must be on course for winning the competition. by your logic.
Bosox
15-06-2016
You're talking about 6 months ago, I'm talking about competitive games played in the last 5 days!

I'd obviously love to be wrong but I have a very bad feeling about England at the moment after we couldn't beat probably the worst team in the tournament in our opening game.
celesti
15-06-2016
It doesn't work that way whatever the time gap, outside the unofficial world championship.
ollie1004
15-06-2016
Well given the trouble kicking off again in Lille tonight, tomorrow may very well be our last match irrespective. So enjoy it folks!
Jamesp84
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by ollie1004:
“Well given the trouble kicking off again in Lille tonight, tomorrow may very well be our last match irrespective. So enjoy it folks! ”

No it won't.
misawa97
15-06-2016
As a Scotland fan I hope so.
alfamale
15-06-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“Ramsey would quite comfortably get in an England squad too.”

Think 'comfortably' is overdoing it. Ramsey is only top quality playing the attacking midfield or No10 role. And at the mo i'd take Deli Alli ahead of him. Also Ramsey looked rather lost in Wales 1st match with no genuine No9 to play behind, As to get Ramsey in is best role they had to play Bale up top with less licence to roam, and this system didn't look like it worked to me. So as an englishman i hope Wales play the same formation and system tomorrow, because i dont think they can win playing that way.
sparkie70
16-06-2016
Originally Posted by Ænima:
“I know We never seem to learn that lesson, I think it's England's biggest weakness in all honesty. In attack, we looked almost as good as Germany, but the Germans didn't sit back so deep when they scored their first. England continuing to think 1 goal is enough, time and time again it's proved a shitty strategy, and even on the odd times when it does work, it feels like England scrape a win, because you have to sit through half the match watching shots rain down on us.”

In tennis terms i say England are Jo Wilfried Tsonga the french player. Great to watch but you know he just won't make it.. Wales is Nick Kyrgios a young brash upstart who could cause an upset.
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