Originally Posted by Grouty:
“Worse for us Slovakia winning.”
“Worse for us Slovakia winning.”
If England don't beat Wales they will be nervous wrecks irrespective of what the outcome of this match is.
Group B: Russia vs Slovakia - (15/6/16) KO 2pm, BBC1/HD
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If England don't beat Wales they will be nervous wrecks irrespective of what the outcome of this match is.
Originally Posted by InTheLoop:
“Is it GD if teams are level on points that determines who finishes higher??”
“Is it GD if teams are level on points that determines who finishes higher??”
No, it's the head to head match between the two teams that are level on points, which determines who finishes higher. But if that match was a draw, then it's goal difference, then goals scored, then fair play points (1 for yellow, 3 for red).
It gets more complicated if three teams are level, as it's the three head to head matches which decide who is higher.
Would England failing to get out of the group stages in a 24 team Euros with 16 going through be their worst performance in a tournament ever? It would have to be up there I think especially given this is not a difficult group. At least at the World Cup we could point to the fact that we were in a group with two former winners in Uruguay and Italy.
Originally Posted by Schmiznurf:
“That's what it sounds like for me when the Polish one says it, shat off, it makes me giggle.”
“That's what it sounds like for me when the Polish one says it, shat off, it makes me giggle.”
It looks to me like Russia will be "shat off" very soon.......
Originally Posted by Turbulence:
“No, it's the head to head match between the two teams that are level on points, which determines who finishes higher. But if that match was a draw, then it's goal difference, then goals scored, then fair play points (1 for yellow, 3 for red).
It gets more complicated if three teams are level, as it's the three head to head matches which decide who is higher.”
“No, it's the head to head match between the two teams that are level on points, which determines who finishes higher. But if that match was a draw, then it's goal difference, then goals scored, then fair play points (1 for yellow, 3 for red).
It gets more complicated if three teams are level, as it's the three head to head matches which decide who is higher.”
Oooh, so I was wrong. Sounds more complicated the way you said.
Originally Posted by Whitehouse95:
“It looks to me like Russia will be "shat off" very soon.......”
“It looks to me like Russia will be "shat off" very soon.......”
Or maybe not.....
Originally Posted by Whitehouse95:
“It looks to me like Russia will be "shat off" very soon.......”
“It looks to me like Russia will be "shat off" very soon.......”
There is now a chance.
Originally Posted by Arcana:
“Surely Russia can't nick another point?”
“Surely Russia can't nick another point?”
Maybe.
Originally Posted by Bosox:
“Would England failing to get out of the group stages in a 24 team Euros with 16 going through be their worst performance in a tournament ever? It would have to be up there I think especially given this is not a difficult group. At least at the World Cup we could point to the fact that we were in a group with two former winners in Uruguay and Italy.”
“Would England failing to get out of the group stages in a 24 team Euros with 16 going through be their worst performance in a tournament ever? It would have to be up there I think especially given this is not a difficult group. At least at the World Cup we could point to the fact that we were in a group with two former winners in Uruguay and Italy.”
I would regard it as the mother of all disasters, irrespective of what might have happened a hundred years ago.
Originally Posted by Schmiznurf:
“Oooh, so I was wrong. Sounds more complicated the way you said.”
“Oooh, so I was wrong. Sounds more complicated the way you said.”
It is, and I much prefer goal difference being the first port of call like the old days.
I don't know, the only reason I can think of as to why they introduced 'head to head' was so that a match between each other became more important than whether someone managed to score 4 goals or 6 goals against a useless bottom side. But at the same time it can be demoralising knowing you can't overtake a team you're 3 points behind on the last day because they have already beaten you.
Originally Posted by Turbulence:
“It is, and I much prefer goal difference being the first port of call like the old days.
I don't know, the only reason I can think of as to why they introduced 'head to head' was so that a match between each other became more important than whether someone managed to score 4 goals or 6 goals against a useless bottom side. But at the same time it can be demoralising knowing you can't overtake a team you're 3 points behind on the last day because they have already beaten you.”
“It is, and I much prefer goal difference being the first port of call like the old days.
I don't know, the only reason I can think of as to why they introduced 'head to head' was so that a match between each other became more important than whether someone managed to score 4 goals or 6 goals against a useless bottom side. But at the same time it can be demoralising knowing you can't overtake a team you're 3 points behind on the last day because they have already beaten you.”
Yeah, the old way is much better, it's almost unfair now.
So third place it is going into the Welsh match, big, big pressure to win it, a draw would really not be good enough.
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