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Group B: England vs Wales - (16/6/16) KO 2pm, BBC1/HD |
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Rubbish,, people have different opinions ,, thats how football is, but every England fan wants England to win games,,, its just many people have been here before and let down by England at many crucial times, i'm not surprised many people have a negativity about how the team play , we have been let down so many times before.
England aren't world beaters but they are top of the group in a tournament where almost every game has been nip and tuck. They dropped points in the last seconds on Saturday and gained points by playing to the death today. The manger is encouraging the team to attack and he isn't afraid to make changes. Take it for what it is so far and have the post mortars afterwards eh? |
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I think Kane may get another start as he's got a bit of credit in the bank, but Sterling must have played himself onto the bench. Wales ought to be in the next round ok, I'd be surprised to see them lose to Russia.
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How could Wales expect to win when the best player in the world Bales was starved of the ball . They spent too much time defending . I haven't got too much confidence in the English defence and Wales looked most threatening the few time that they attacked with Bales .
Wales should play an all out attacking game against Russia if they want to win . |
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How could Wales expect to win when the best player in the world Bales was starved of the ball . They spent too much time defending . I haven't got too much confidence in the English defence and Wales looked most threatening the few time that they attacked with Bales .
Wales should play an all out attacking game against Russia if they want to win . |
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You don't need to remember that far back - Sweden 2 England 3 in June 2012.
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How could Wales expect to win when the best player in the world Bales was starved of the ball . They spent too much time defending . I haven't got too much confidence in the English defence and Wales looked most threatening the few time that they attacked with Bales .
Wales should play an all out attacking game against Russia if they want to win . ![]()
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Rubbish,, people have different opinions ,, thats how football is, but every England fan wants England to win games,,, its just many people have been here before and let down by England at many crucial times, i'm not surprised many people have a negativity about how the team play , we have been let down so many times before.
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I think Kane may get another start as he's got a bit of credit in the bank, but Sterling must have played himself onto the bench. Wales ought to be in the next round ok, I'd be surprised to see them lose to Russia.
I would keep Vardy and Sturridge in now to maintain that momentum, and Kane would be very useful to bring on later. |
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i really hope not he is not the same kane we see week in week out at tottenham at present, granted he is excellent when hes on fire but hodgson would be foolish to start him again hes had 1 shot off target in 135 minutes of football and no touches in the opposition box, he looks worn out. STurridge should still be number one choice in my opinion I think he is our most gifted player.
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care to back that up with stats? |
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Leicester had the third lowest possession last season at 44.8%
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And England had by far the most possession today, and won, so the Leicester comparison is irrelevant.
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Its irrelevant to you because you choose to miss the point that many of us are saying, we didnt dominate Wales, just the possession. How many shots did we have on target?
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I think Kane has looked a little tired, and he did the last few games of the season. He also plays in a different formation at Spurs, and that seems to suit him better.
I would keep Vardy and Sturridge in now to maintain that momentum, and Kane would be very useful to bring on later. Anyhow, I'm delighted with the England win, been waiting for one in a tournament for far too long ... |
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We are playing alright, you can't beat a late winner go on Sturridge lad
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Tough for the Welsh it always is when you concede so late in a game.
Truth is though I can't see England winning against a really good side. |
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Just a comment on Sterling, he's had 1 decent half and 2 pretty bad ones, I expect him to be benched for Slovakia.
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Tom Jones,Bonnie Tyler,Shirley Bassey,Shakin Stevens - Your boys took a hell of a beating
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So what do you actually want?? England won the game AND had the most possession, isn't that enough at this stage?
That'll do for me -so far
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Its irrelevant to you because you choose to miss the point that many of us are saying, we didnt dominate Wales, just the possession. How many shots did we have on target?
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Just a comment on Sterling, he's had 1 decent half and 2 pretty bad ones, I expect him to be benched for Slovakia.
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What's with the "Ramsey > Alli" thing? Ramsey's 25 whilst Alli has just turned 20. Alli is class and will evolve into a better player than Ramsey. He'll learn from international football soon enough as part of his football education - not sure he's playing in his best position with England either.
I think fatigue is playing a part with the Spurs players too - the energy Poch demanded week in week out has had an effect over recent games. And with Albania and Ukraine on 0 points after two games, I make it that England are through already - what a difference a goal makes!
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I hope Roy drops Sterling and Lallana for the next game as we looked a lot better when we were playing with two strikers
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We were lucky to get three points, scoring in injury time does have more than a mere hint of luck about it.
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I hear a mic hitting the floor.
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care to back that up with stats?