Originally Posted by FMKK:
“By your metric, only Zidane, Maradona, Pele and Cruyff are great players and even then three of them were in top sides so can be discounted because they didn't win all by themselves and Cruyff didn't even win a trophy. So only Maradona is a truly great player, and even then you've mythologised about him beyond reality.”
Sorry, but I have never said anything about winning trophies = greatness. Nothing whatsoever to do with this whole point! Neither has it ever been about great or not so great teams. All along, it's been about the true greats being able to take their undoubted talents and great club form and performing at their own, individual best against the best at national tournament level. They produced great performances game after game.
Benteke had scored two goals, just one less than Ron. Nobody has said he had a great tournament because he
certainly didn't.
Bale scored two and overall played better than Ron but he also was nowhere near having a great tournament.
I remember Cruyff in a WC final running through a German defence like a hot knife through butter. A German team that had the great Beckenbauer in it
Maradona, single handedly destroying teams.
Pele, on a different planet to the rest of his team, s team that was regarded ad one of. if not the best of all time
Zidane bossing match after match.
Two flashes of Ronaldo's UNDOUBTED TALENT has been nothing compared to that!
He's done what he usually does at this level. A few goals and a couple of moments of his club. If that'd your idea of what an alltime great has to do, then so be it.