The two George's prove this to not be the case (Best and Weah).

looool like i said theres only about 4-5 decent teams in the primera leagu if i had suarez and neymar with me im sure ill get a few goals be honest lol

you have your levels u got pele and diego.. Big line tyen you got your zidanes ronaldo best messi levels.

If I was on Roger Federer's team I reckon we'd win a few rounds on the doubles at Wimbledon. I used to be pretty good at badminton so it's close enough.

you probably would lol

You'd probably do alright in the Brazil 1970 side as well then. They were really good. Which means Pele must be shite.

that im not sure of cuz they played strong opposition at a very high level. Barca is in the primera league so i might not score vs real, atletico, sevilla, villareal but i could probably nick a few against
The likes of Levante, vallacano, eibar and granada and a good few others.

This is a good article on the overhype.
http://www.phantis.com/blogs/midfiel...modern-globali

Nah, that's all bias and delusion lol

lol u didnt even read it

Of course not, just skimmed some words and disagreed

Lollolololl

How many full matches have you seen Pele play?

66 Worl Cup - Pele scores in first gane but is kicked to bits and misses secod game which Brazil lose.
Pele back for third game, kicked to bits again with no action taken by the ref and limps round the pitch.
No subs allowed and Brazil are knocked out.
Pele says he'll never play in another WC

70 WC. Brazil play some of the most memorable football ever seen in one of the all time classic tournaments. Pele is the star of the show and they of course go on to win it.

74 WC - Pele retired, they are made to look third rate by Holland, to the point where they were reduced to trying to hack down the Dutch to try and stop them.

See, no Pele, no great Brazil.

I feel the collective forum IQ dropping with every post that a certain poster is making.

I think you've missed my point.

I was not thinking against the clock but I was posting off the top of my head and simply had a complete blank moment. If you want to keep bringing up an honest dumb mistake in order to score points, then go ahead.

As for scoring records at RM. So flipping what!
He's in a top team in a league where 6-0 scorelinrs against weak teams are common place. Ronaldo scored lots of goals too. C Ron is now 31, fat Ron was in serious decline years before that age due to his injuries. Take into account football all levels fat Ron's achievements pee all over C Ron's! An unfit fat Ron was better at this level than 'C Ron.

1982 side wasn't bad.

Some on here have used the excuse about the quality of the other players in various teams affecting the ability of how a great player can or cannot perform.
I was pointing out that even the greatest era of Brazilian football relied massively on one player doing his stuff.

Thats just simply not true. Not true at all. You dont like Ronaldo , we get it, but you just look silly when you try to demonstrate that he is not at the very top level of the game and has been for a decade.

You don't score the vast quantity of goals in such a short period of time, and have the goals to game ratio that he does if you are just a mere average player.

They were a wonderful team! I could never tire of watching that style of football.
However, I was referring to the Pele era and just after to show just how big a difference he made to them.
Won in 58 & 62 with Pele. Struggled in 66 due to him being hacked to pieces. Won in 70. Third rate in 74 without him.

For the millionth time - Great at club level only!!!!!!!

We can't just compare them like that. Each major competition has it's own hype and it's own buzz/style to it (including FA Cup though perhaps to a lesser extent). They are all entertaining in different ways.

Only a small handful of the 1970 squad were there four years later and they still finished fourth. Players can be idolised without ignoring the team around them.