If there's only nominations in the main house, why would they want to move?

At the end they will integrate them, thing is until then they are seemingly immune.

It's dumb, Ryan failed he should be kicked out now.
Or is this "others" Bullshit gonna run for the whole length of the show.

how many chances will each individual get to become a HM?

ATM they're better off being an other as they get the same experience without the risk of going.

So bored of the other house now this shit twist has failed it could be so good if they merged it but they are just going to plod along, killing the show and making it up as they go along to save face. Idiots

It should have been that failure to secure nomination of their targeted housemate would result in automatic nomination so in Ryan's case, he would automatically have gone up for the vote. They have a loophole...perhaps purposefully whereby the Others losing their tasks and not becoming housemates is the desired outcome.

Others equal immunity so why would they want into the main house ?

Presumably there will come a point when the houses are merged, hopefully sooner rather then later and at that point not all the others will become full hms and so at least one other will be evicted without making it into the house. When or why or how remain to be seen though.

i would guess one of the following will decide which others become hms?


1) A public vote faced by all others
2) main housemates choose who to become hms
3) Some task with the priza a place in the house
4) or a combination, maybe someone wins a place by winning a task and the rest face a vote or the main hms choose one and the rest fact the vote

Well, as the others are interesting compared to the mains I'm all for them voting each other off.

I think they're dragging it out until they come up with a decent twist and try to convince us it was all planned.

I reckon one week, they'll be no nominations in the main house and then all the others will face the public vote and the bottom two will be evicted but the other four will go across

I never get competitions like that, as the main hms may be more dead slicked than the others.

Like in football two strong teams may compete and one goes forward, two weak team compete and one goes through, then you have a weak team playing a,strong one......makes no sense.

It needs to be that one Other moves every week and if they fail their mission to nominate their chosen housemate then they are kicked out altogether. That means that effectively they're all in the firing line and not as safe as the housemates as they will all go into the main house at some point. They also can't win the prize money until they are housemates.

Seems they have immunity from eviction until the final week(s).

Ryan had his chance and fluffed it so should just go now.

The producers won't say what the "rules" are about the Others and how they get evicted because they want to be able to make it up as they go along. They will evict someone for failing a task in the main house when it suits them. Clearly it didn't suit them to evict Ryan yet. Typical BB manipulation.

I'd think that would be the un-fairest way to do it considering they have only met Ryan and would choose him over the others because they haven't met the others.

I think when they merge, maybe 2-3 will be evicted and the rest go in.

Because only those in the main house are eligible to win the prize money.

It seems it was always intended to reveal the other house last Tuesday but I can't belive they intended to use the other house just for a week. My guess is that they will continue with the other house even though the HMs know it is there. I imagine there will be taskd for the others to win a place in the main house and tasks for the HMs with losers going into the other house. So by the end of the series, many of them will have been back and forwards a few times.

BB said that Ryan had to carry out a mission this week in order to fight for his place in the house by getting Laura nominated.

Now let's get this right.
If he got Laura nominated then he wouldn't have got evicted.
In reality he failed his mission. He still didn't get evicted.
This week one of the housemates will get evicted, but he'll be safe.

So BB has taught us and the housemates that.....
It seems to be the case that it's better that you don't bother to fight for your place in the house as there's no risk and no penalty. You can probably survive longer in the BB house the longer you can remain to be an Other rather than being a housemate.

Why try? Why bother to be successful in missions? There's nothing at stake.
You're safer and have more chance of surviving in there if you simply don't bother trying. Better to not try hard.
This is what BB have taught the housemates.

That about sums it up

The other house is, in effect, the 'safe' house

It seems to be the case that the only real advantage to being a housemate is to have the prestige of being described as a housemate by name.
In terms of the game itself it's a bigger advantage to simply be an Other.

Exactly, especially given that after the eviction there will be the same number of housemates in each house

The really strange thing though is that pretty much most of us if not all of us have fallen for the conceit that they are two distinct groups of people, housemates and others.
In reality no matter what you call them we know that they're all housemates really don't we?

Look at any listings for the contestants in all previous years of Big Brother and I think all contestants which were in secret rooms and whatnot are always listed as housemates in hindsight.
The Wikipedia page, Oddschecker betting listing, whatever you want to call them they're all treated as equally valid housemates

It's just a little game of pretend that we're playing with ourselves.

And the Others have the advantage of observing the 'real' housemates from time to time so can use the time they remain as an other wisely to gain advantages over the housemates.
So far it's a win win situation the longer they can manage to remain as an other.

In the live twist debacle the other night it was presented as though Chelsea was unlucky. But in reality he was the luckiest person in there when he changed from a housemate to an other as little did we know at the time that it would mean that he would dodge a bullet by being immune from eviction this week.

Who'd be a housemate? The Others are the place to be.

Has anybody thought about this possibility?.....

The 'Other' house is quite a clever conceit from the perspective of BB. Because if you think about it if BB intend to keep the extra house for most of the series they can use it to literally choose whether somebody is evicted or not.

If somebody they like is put up for eviction they can just 'evict' them into the Other house with the intention of getting them back to the main house later.
if it's somebody they couldn't care less about then they can just evict them as normal.
Because remember....they can wait until nominations are over before they say whether the public are evicting them or fake evicting them into the Other house.

I'm not saying that they actually will do this, only that they can if they feel like it.