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Group B: Russia vs Wales - (20/6/16) KO 8pm, ITV4/HD
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Michael_Eve
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Xela M:
“Bale and Ramsey are basically the whole Wales team, but how they play should put Mr "highest paid athlete in the world" to shame. The old debate about national teams being unfair to players born in the wrong country and that you can't expect club stars to shine for their national teams. Well, you really cannot have a weaker team around you than Bale and Ramsey have, yet their phenomenal displays show that you don't need to have the best players in the world around you to play well

On the other hand, yet another tournament, same old tournament Ronaldo...”

It was a great team performance. The defence were solid, Joe Allen was a star again, Taylor and Vokes got into great possessions, crucial save by Hennessey...sure, Ramsay and Bale are the stand outs, but yeah, they were all brilliant last night....to a man. That spell in the second half where the put together about 20 passes with no comeback...woah! And Russia have a bit of a bigger pool of players than us!
Xela M
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Michael_Eve:
“It was a great team performance. The defence were solid, Joe Allen was a star again, Taylor and Vokes got into great possessions, crucial save by Hennessey...sure, Ramsay and Bale are the stand outs, but yeah, they were all brilliant last night....to a man. That spell in the second half where the put together about 20 passes with no comeback...woah! And Russia have a bit of a bigger pool of players than us! ”

Russia were AWFUL - the worst team of the tournament and the fact that England couldn't win against them just shows how rubbish they played.

As for Wales being a strong team, well... take Ramsey and Bale out and I'm sure the team will play some pretty terrifying football, but having a team built around those two makes the whole team look good. Just like Uruguay (or Liverpool) looked great with Suarez, but really awful without
Jamesp84
21-06-2016
Ronaldo is of course highly relevant to this match.
Michael_Eve
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Xela M:
“Russia were AWFUL - the worst team of the tournament and the fact that England couldn't win against them just shows how rubbish they played.

As for Wales being a strong team, well... take Ramsey and Bale out and I'm sure the team will play some pretty terrifying football, but having a team built around those two makes the whole team look good. Just like Uruguay (or Liverpool) looked great with Suarez, but really awful without”

Apart from the free kicks, Gareth has only come really alive in the last game...same with Ramsey to a degree. Yet we beat Slovakia and nearly got a point against England, although in fairness from our rather negative second half performance that was a fair result.

That's a team playing out of their skins and am proud of them. Joe Allen has been a little marvel. The teams the thing, and that's come across in spades. Sure most teams need their 'star' players, but if the rest aren't hacking it....you're stuffed. As for Russia, well you can only beat what's in front of you!

As an aside and speaking of teams who all play for each other....Good luck Northern Ireland!
Xela M
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Michael_Eve:
“Apart from the free kicks, Gareth has only come really alive in the last game...same with Ramsey to a degree. Yet we beat Slovakia and nearly got a point against England, although in fairness from our rather negative second half performance that was a fair result.

That's a team playing out of their skins and am proud of them. Joe Allen has been a little marvel. The teams the thing, and that's come across in spades. Sure most teams need their 'star' players, but if the rest aren't hacking it....you're stuffed. As for Russia, well you can only beat what's in front of you!

As an aside and speaking of teams who all play for each other....Good luck Northern Ireland!”

Bale can play terrible, but when he scores 3 goals in 3 games... that's kind of all you need him to do
Xela M
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Jamesp84:
“Ronaldo is of course highly relevant to this match.”

As Gareth Bale's team mate, yes he is
misawa97
21-06-2016
Originally Posted by Michael_Eve:
“Apart from the free kicks, Gareth has only come really alive in the last game...same with Ramsey to a degree. Yet we beat Slovakia and nearly got a point against England, although in fairness from our rather negative second half performance that was a fair result.

That's a team playing out of their skins and am proud of them. Joe Allen has been a little marvel. The teams the thing, and that's come across in spades. Sure most teams need their 'star' players, but if the rest aren't hacking it....you're stuffed. As for Russia, well you can only beat what's in front of you!

As an aside and speaking of teams who all play for each other....Good luck Northern Ireland!”

Allen is class. An absolute gem of a player.
Schmiznurf
21-06-2016
Pretty funny
Ghost Misguided
22-06-2016
Originally Posted by Xela M:
“Bale and Ramsey are basically the whole Wales team, but how they play should put Mr "highest paid athlete in the world" to shame. The old debate about national teams being unfair to players born in the wrong country and that you can't expect club stars to shine for their national teams. Well, you really cannot have a weaker team around you than Bale and Ramsey have, yet their phenomenal displays show that you don't need to have the best players in the world around you to play well

On the other hand, yet another tournament, same old tournament Ronaldo...”

Originally Posted by Xela M:
“Russia were AWFUL - the worst team of the tournament and the fact that England couldn't win against them just shows how rubbish they played.

As for Wales being a strong team, well... take Ramsey and Bale out and I'm sure the team will play some pretty terrifying football, but having a team built around those two makes the whole team look good. Just like Uruguay (or Liverpool) looked great with Suarez, but really awful without”

Originally Posted by Xela M:
“Bale can play terrible, but when he scores 3 goals in 3 games... that's kind of all you need him to do ”

So you're saying top players improve teams and win football matches? Thanks for that, genius.
Xela M
22-06-2016
Originally Posted by Ghost Misguided:
“So you're saying top players improve teams and win football matches? Thanks for that, genius.”

I'm saying SOME top players do. I don't think Portugal would necessarily agree with your statement.
mikeyddd
22-06-2016
Just got back from the game and what a great atmosphere before and during the game. The Welsh Russians Scots and English mixed well. There were Scots and English there supporting Wales.
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