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England Man of the Match- England VS Slovakia


View Poll Results: Who was your Man of the Match in England VS Slovakia?
Joe Hart 1 2.38%
Nathaniel Clyne 20 47.62%
Gary Cahill 1 2.38%
Chris Smalling 0 0%
Ryan Bertrand 1 2.38%
Jordan Henderson 1 2.38%
Eric Dier 8 19.05%
Jack Wilshire 0 0%
Adam Lallana 2 4.76%
Jamie Vardy 3 7.14%
Daniel Sturridge 2 4.76%
Wayne Rooney (substitute) 2 4.76%
Harry Kane (substitute) 0 0%
Dele Alli (substitute) 1 2.38%
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Old 21-06-2016, 09:55
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Coming over here, taking our holding midfielder roles...
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:02
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I'll always regret making that petition to deport Graeme Le Saux back to France.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:08
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A batty decision
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:13
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He was good for Spurs last season and fully deserved his place in the squad, he was along with Ali their breakout stars of that season I thought.

If only Ali could be doing as well in this tournament as him, then we would look far more dangerous going forward then we are currently.
If only Hodgson would play him centrally behind the striker, where he was excellent last season, and preferably behind Kane, the striker he linked up with so well last season, then he might be doing as well you want him to.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:20
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Clyne without a doubt then Dier as he pinged some nice balls that led to a chance.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:21
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If only Hodgson would play him centrally behind the striker, where he was excellent last season, and preferably behind Kane, the striker he linked up with so well last season, then he might be doing as well you want him to.
Yes a case of playing players in their natural positions, shame that we don't do that often enough, as we then might be more successful, and look better whilst doing so.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:28
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Eric Dier, who has played well in every game. He makes that role look easy. He's always there to receive the ball, dispossess opponents, and when he gets it, he nearly always plays a sensible pass.

He's the player most will notice if he isn't there.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:28
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Why do our right backs keep getting Man of the match for England
Exactly. If your mvp is a defender you have probably already lost.

The defenders job is just to get the ball for vardy.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:31
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If only Hodgson would play him centrally behind the striker, where he was excellent last season, and preferably behind Kane, the striker he linked up with so well last season, then he might be doing as well you want him to.
Alli played behind Kane in the first two group games? Rooney played a deeper role.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:33
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Exactly. If your mvp is a defender you have probably already lost.

The defenders job is just to get the ball for vardy.
That is simply nonsense, and a total lack of understanding about the role of a modern full back.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:34
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Eric Dier, who has played well in every game. He makes that role look easy. He's always there to receive the ball, dispossess opponents, and when he gets it, he nearly always plays a sensible pass.

He's the player most will notice if he isn't there.
Which makes the decision to only bring one DM (him) to the European Championships all the more baffling, as it now means he cannot be rested, or subbed for a like for like player, as there isn't one there to replace him.

The whole makeup of the squad was barmy when it was initially picked, and it is just looking that way now we are in full tournament mode.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:34
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Yes a case of playing players in their natural positions, shame that we don't do that often enough, as we then might be more successful, and look better whilst doing so.
You are one moaning so and so. You complain whatever the team is, and whatever the result, and performance is.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:35
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Which makes the decision to only bring one DM (him) to the European Championships all the more baffling, as it now means he cannot be rested, or subbed for a like for like player, as there isn't one there to replace him.

The whole makeup of the squad was barmy when it was initially picked, and it is just looking that way now we are in full tournament mode.
I refer to my previous post. Who else can play like Dier, and is good enough?
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:37
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You are one moaning so and so. You complain whatever the team is, and whatever the result, and performance is.
I wouldn't be moaning if we played well, and actually you know won games, I would be in happy, excited mode, but alas that has not happen so far in this tournament.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:39
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Exactly. If your mvp is a defender you have probably already lost.

The defenders job is just to get the ball for vardy.
Not really. Walker and Rose in particular, as wingbacks, add the width and play a big part in our attacking play down the flanks, as well as doing the defensive side of the job well.

Clyne last night had nothing to defend so was able to solely concentrate on getting forward. I don't think he'd get forward quite as much if he had more defending to do, but he wasn't arguably MOTM last night because of defending well, it was because of his attacking play. Walker's MOTM was a mixture of both, as he had more to defend against Wales, but he also got forward very well and added a lot to our attack. Rose on the other flank has quietly gone about his business and done well in both departments against Russia and Wales. Bertrand showed last night that he is nowhere near Rose's level.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:39
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I refer to my previous post. Who else can play like Dier, and is good enough?
Off the top of my head, there is not anyone else who is a fully DM like him, however the nearest might be someone like say a Carrick or a Noble, who could come on as subs, and at least try to control that area of the pitch.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:40
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I am in full agreement with those that say that Bertrand was very poor last night, and showed himself to not be ready or able to make the step up to this level.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:41
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I wouldn't be moaning if we played well, and actually you know won games, I would be in happy, excited mode, but alas that has not happen so far in this tournament.
It's not a given right to win. Many of the big teams have had the same problems we have.

I cant remember a tournament for decades where we haven't been struggling to hang on in groups. Maybe Euro 96 was the last one.

Teams defend well at this stage. Games will open up now. We have the players to cope with that, which we haven't had in Roys last two tournaments. It's a young team, and I dont expect us to win it, but if we play attacking football, and pass the ball like we do, I'm backing them.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:42
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It's not a given right to win. Many of the big teams have had the same problems we have.

I cant remember a tournament for decades where we haven't been struggling to hang on in groups. Maybe Euro 96 was the last one.

Teams defend well at this stage. Games will open up now. We have the players to cope with that, which we haven't had in Roys last two tournaments. It's a young team, and I dont expect us to win it, but if we play attacking football, and pass the ball like we do, I'm backing them.
In full agreement with your final sentence
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:42
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I thought he might be a Johnny Foreigner, but when I checked I found out he was English. Not a lot of room for confusion really.
His name is not Johnny
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:43
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I refer to my previous post. Who else can play like Dier, and is good enough?
Noble. Drinkwater. Except they aren't spurs/liverpool.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:48
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Nor are they defensive players.

Exactly. If your mvp is a defender you have probably already lost.

The defenders job is just to get the ball for vardy.
Fabio Cannavaro was the best player when Italy won the World Cup.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:50
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It's not a given right to win. Many of the big teams have had the same problems we have.

I cant remember a tournament for decades where we haven't been struggling to hang on in groups. Maybe Euro 96 was the last one.

Teams defend well at this stage. Games will open up now. We have the players to cope with that, which we haven't had in Roys last two tournaments. It's a young team, and I dont expect us to win it, but if we play attacking football, and pass the ball like we do, I'm backing them.
Huh???

Where on earth did I say it was a God given right for us to win games?
It most certainly is not, and that goes for anyone, not just ourselves.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:52
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Best players for every other country are forwards, and attacking midfielders. For England it's a full back. Says it all.

1970 world cup, our star men were banks (the save) and Moore (the tackle). We go on about losing 1-0 to Brazil. In truth if your best men are defenders you are playing to not lose, rather than to win.

The players who really strike memories for England are Gazza, Beckham, shearer and so on. Forwards.
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Old 21-06-2016, 10:53
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It says it all about your understanding of football, not much else.
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