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Old 03-07-2016, 11:41
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Yeah, bias is terrible isn't it?

At some point you might have to come to terms with Wales not only doing well but deserving it too.
I've never denied they have done incredibly well to get as far as they have.

Portugal are much tougher than Belgium. They're defensively organised, and won't panic and lose faith even if they did fall behind. I can see no possible way for Wales to beat them especially with two key players out through suspension (Ramsey is a HUGE miss).
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Old 03-07-2016, 12:09
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I've never denied they have done incredibly well to get as far as they have.

Portugal are much tougher than Belgium. They're defensively organised, and won't panic and lose faith even if they did fall behind. I can see no possible way for Wales to beat them especially with two key players out through suspension (Ramsey is a HUGE miss).
Really?

Portugal who barely managed to scrape their way into the knockout stage, not on goal difference, but on total goals scored?

Portugal who have not won a single game in 90 mins

Portugal couldn't win against Hungary, Belgium put 4 past them.

I'm embarrassed that some other English fans are so bitter that they come out with this kind of tripe.

It's a new game, and maybe Portugal's "Stars" will finally show their potential, unlike England's, and will prove too much for Wales, but to suggest that there is "no possible way for Wales to beat them" is laughable
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Old 03-07-2016, 12:13
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I'm embarrassed that other English fans are so bitter that they come out with this kind of tripe.
I was embarrassed to see the Welsh team camped out in front of a TV desperately hoping for England to lose to Iceland, and celebrating the result like they themselves had just won the World Cup.
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Old 03-07-2016, 12:20
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Your posts are increasingly desperate. Let it go.
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Old 03-07-2016, 12:22
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I was embarrassed to see the Welsh team camped out in front of a TV desperately hoping for England to lose to Iceland, and celebrating the result like they themselves had just won the World Cup.
Well, yeah, that wasn't great. I always cheer on the other nations from the UK and would prefer it if that was mutual, but I can understand why it may not be the case. The media is very "England" biased. I have no doubt this is a commercial decision. There are more English people that will buy your paper if England are on the front page, than there are Welsh people that will buy it, if Wales are on the front page.

And that MAY be a reason to want to see Wales lose if you wish. But you are not saying you don't WANT wales to win. You are saying they CAN'T win.
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Old 03-07-2016, 14:14
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Wales have a very good chance of winning now, Portugal are not playing well at all so getting to the final seems like a no brainer.
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Old 03-07-2016, 15:56
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I've never denied they have done incredibly well to get as far as they have.

Portugal are much tougher than Belgium. They're defensively organised, and won't panic and lose faith even if they did fall behind. I can see no possible way for Wales to beat them especially with two key players out through suspension (Ramsey is a HUGE miss).
Portugal will be missing their vital midfielder William Carvalho though and Wales have a half decent replacement for Ramsey in Jonny Williams .
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Old 03-07-2016, 16:04
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France or Germany should still win it.

If Wales get to the final against Germany they will automatically be in the confederations cup next June which would be a massive achievement
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Old 03-07-2016, 16:14
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France or Germany should still win it.

If Wales get to the final against Germany they will automatically be in the confederations cup next June which would be a massive achievement
They already have a WC qualifier against Serbia on June 11 next year. If they qualified for the Confederations Cup, they would have a long summer ahead of them.
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Old 03-07-2016, 16:28
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Wales have a very good chance of winning now, Portugal are not playing well at all so getting to the final seems like a no brainer.
On paper but I'm being reminded too much of Greece in 2004.
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Old 03-07-2016, 16:29
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Well yes but they spent a lot of time with safe possession in their own half and Belgium refused to do much pressing. Safe side to side passes before a hoof ball forward finally conceded possession.



To borrow from boxing - they have a punchers chance at best. They might strike lucky, but it is highly unlikely that the England hating squad will get to the finals. There is a huge gulf in class and I wouldn't bet one penny on them reaching the final.

Wales 0 Portugal 3 is my prediction with a couple from Ron.
It's pathetic how you're unable to hide your bias against Wales and you're too stupid to see it.
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Old 03-07-2016, 17:00
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Well yes but they spent a lot of time with safe possession in their own half and Belgium refused to do much pressing. Safe side to side passes before a hoof ball forward finally conceded possession.

To borrow from boxing - they have a punchers chance at best. They might strike lucky, but it is highly unlikely that the England hating squad will get to the finals. There is a huge gulf in class and I wouldn't bet one penny on them reaching the final.

Wales 0 Portugal 3 is my prediction with a couple from Ron.
Judging by your predictions in the politics forum of late, this must make Wales a certainty to progress.
I predict a 3 - 1 victory to Wales with Ronaldo getting sent off for simulation or harrasing of officials.
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Old 03-07-2016, 17:14
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I was embarrassed to see the Welsh team camped out in front of a TV desperately hoping for England to lose to Iceland, and celebrating the result like they themselves had just won the World Cup.
I've said this before, but it's all about bragging rights at their clubs. They'll have got endless stick off English team-mates and friends after losing the other day. I guarantee you their phones were red-hot.

For the first time ever, they can give it back. It's daft and I wish they hadn't done it, but it's laddish/bantery nonsense. There is something hilarious about the fact it was Iceland too - we have to listen to endless stuff about the England team in the media. Even my English mates recognise that.

I'm loving the fact that for virtually the first time in my 46 years I can give my English mates some stick about doing better than them. I got loads of texts when they lost 2-1, mostly about being a rubbish team of sheepsh*ggers. Finally, finally, I can give it bad in a lighthearted way.

I'm loving it.

Saying that, I've been massively impressed with the good wishes from England fans (most of whom are relaxed about the Welsh team's somewhat daft celebration).
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Old 03-07-2016, 17:15
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Judging by your predictions in the politics forum of late, this must make Wales a certainty to progress.
I predict a 3 - 1 victory to Wales with Ronaldo getting sent off for simulation or harrasing of officials.
Yes - please keep your insightful analysis and predications coming. Don't ever stop!
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Old 03-07-2016, 17:28
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I've said this before, but it's all about bragging rights at their clubs. They'll have got endless stick off English team-mates and friends after losing the other day. I guarantee you their phones were red-hot.

For the first time ever, they can give it back. It's daft and I wish they hadn't done it, but it's laddish/bantery nonsense. There is something hilarious about the fact it was Iceland too - we have to listen to endless stuff about the England team in the media. Even my English mates recognise that.

I'm loving the fact that for virtually the first time in my 46 years I can give my English mates some stick about doing better than them. I got loads of texts when they lost 2-1, mostly about being a rubbish team of sheepsh*ggers. Finally, finally, I can give it bad in a lighthearted way.

I'm loving it.

Saying that, I've been massively impressed with the good wishes from England fans (most of whom are relaxed about the Welsh team's somewhat daft celebration).
Yeah, that's basically how it's been with me and my English mates. It's been very jokey stuff. We all know that at the end of the day....it get's dark. Sorry; I mean at the end of the day, it's not *that* serious. God, you go through it with your team, but it is a game...

Speaking of impressive fans, have heard quite a few stories about the Welsh and the Belgians and the general friendly atmosphere. Eg Welsh fans being applauded after arriving at pubs after the game, and even getting an impromptu 'guard of honour' from the Belgians when a group of them were going for a train in their 'underground'. Considering the early reporting of off field events, that's the sort of thing that makes me smile.
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Old 04-07-2016, 02:06
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I was embarrassed to see the Welsh team camped out in front of a TV desperately hoping for England to lose to Iceland, and celebrating the result like they themselves had just won the World Cup.
Why? That's sports rivalry. What's wrong with that?!

Argentina players probably celebrated Brazil's 7:1 loss so hard, they were clearly too hung over to play in the WC final There were videos of them in their dressing room chanting "Brazil, how do you like us showing you up in your own back yard" etc

Do you think German players didn't celebrate Holland not qualifying for the Euros?

Anyway, all of Europe laughed at England and celebrated - Wales were just filmed doing it.
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Old 04-07-2016, 06:42
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I doubt all of Europe cared enough to celebrate, calm it down.
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Old 04-07-2016, 08:01
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Xela is probably right in that football fans throughout Europe will have had a good snigger at England's humiliating failure against Iceland. Just as I expect they would if the same happened to Germany. It's hardly a declaration of war, for goodness sake.
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Old 04-07-2016, 08:44
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I'm sure people in Estonia and beyond laughed briefly and then carried on with whatever they were doing because most love an underdog tale, but not jumping about and screaming like the Welsh did.
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Old 04-07-2016, 08:47
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We agree, which is not conducive to extending the discussion
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Old 04-07-2016, 09:36
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I'm sure people in Estonia and beyond laughed briefly and then carried on with whatever they were doing because most love an underdog tale, but not jumping about and screaming like the Welsh did.
Yes I'm sure people did.

I doubt many other countries had a gathering of their entire football squad though cramped around a TV watching and praying for England to lose.
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Old 04-07-2016, 09:38
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You can't take offence to Wales celebrating an England defeat when every post you make has you clearly drooling over the prospect of Wales losing.
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Old 04-07-2016, 09:53
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You can't take offence to Wales celebrating an England defeat when every post you make has you clearly drooling over the prospect of Wales losing.
And this FM was calling out Wales and it's fans for being cocky and arrogant prior to the England v Wales game just because we'd beaten Slovakia and enjoyed it! Our first game in a major tournament since 1958, a big moment. Guess as a "minnow" we shouldn't have been so uppity from the start?!

ie Disparaging opinions waaay before the 'celebration' incident. Still...all opinion of course!
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:36
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Why are people throwing their dummies out of the pram over their arch RIVALS celebrating their humiliating loss?! Don't rival clubs do that all the time? What the hell is wrong with that?
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Old 04-07-2016, 12:11
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Why are people throwing their dummies out of the pram over their arch RIVALS celebrating their humiliating loss?! Don't rival clubs do that all the time? What the hell is wrong with that?
Agreed. Far less of a crime than scoring too many goals, for example....
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