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Boring Tournament So Far?
I find the whole tournament really boring thus far.. the "star players" are not shining like we demand of them.
A bit of an anti-climax to me. What does everyone think of the tournament? |
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Its not bad, but I've heard some people calling the greatest euro's ever because of the high number of late goals, which is a load of crap.
We've had 58 goals in 32 games, which is an average 1.81 goals per game. Italia 90 had the worst average ever for a World Cup at 2.21, so statistically speaking this tournament at the moment is making Italia 90 look like a goalfest. |
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I like it! The only thing I hate is how unfair the round of 16 is going to be. It's much better to come second in many groups and some group winners play runners up whereas others play 3rd placed teams. Some runners up play runners up. It makes no sense and is highly unfair. And I don't like the fact that all the strong teams are on one side of the draw and will eliminate each other before the final, whereas weaker teams have almost a free pass to the semis.
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I find the whole tournament really boring thus far.. the "star players" are not shining like we demand of them.
A bit of an anti-climax to me. What does everyone think of the tournament? I think the amount of football and the intensity to which players are required to play at the top level now week in week out doesn't help summer tournaments. |
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I've enjoyed it. Few goals yes, but not too many really dull games. Not much diving or feigning injury
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It's been fine. The expected stars haven't shined, but other players have impressed in their place. Having 75% of some groups advance has ruined it a little, but the football itself I've enjoyed.
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I've enjoyed it. Few goals yes, but not too many really dull games. Not much diving or feigning injury
I can't stand the usual flood of refereeing errors at each World Cup. |
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I think it's been mostly enjoyable but having 24 teams and putting through so many third place sides has encouraged negativity. Really though, there could be a lot more goals of the standard of finishing was better. There have been lots of squandered chances. I wonder if a lot of the top players are just exhausted from the season.
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It's been a fairly negative tournament but there isn't much between teams there is a little between the top teams and there is litte between outside between what was the perceived top 6 seeds.
Defensive play is high quality but not even sure if the top scorer will get to six as normal. Can see there being lots of defensive games and playing for pens in the last 16 as well, Switzerland v Poland would be as well doing the penalties now |
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I've enjoyed it, too. I've liked the close games and not seeing the supposed minnows getting tonked. You don't always have to have goals in a game to enjoy it.
I've noticed a lot of negative comments about the 24-team system but genuinely cannot recall if the system got the same kind of criticism at the '86, '90, and '94 World Cups, two of which are remembered fondly as excellent tournaments. If they did I must have buried the memories. |
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I've enjoyed it, too. I've liked the close games and not seeing the supposed minnows getting tonked. You don't always have to have goals in a game to enjoy it.
I've noticed a lot of negative comments about the 24-team system but genuinely cannot recall if the system got the same kind of criticism at the '86, '90, and '94 World Cups, two of which are remembered fondly as excellent tournaments. If they did I must have buried the memories. |
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I've enjoyed it, too. I've liked the close games and not seeing the supposed minnows getting tonked. You don't always have to have goals in a game to enjoy it.
I've noticed a lot of negative comments about the 24-team system but genuinely cannot recall if the system got the same kind of criticism at the '86, '90, and '94 World Cups, two of which are remembered fondly as excellent tournaments. If they did I must have buried the memories. |
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I haven't heard anyone say anything about this, looks to me like the players are having trouble with the ball that is being used. So many shots are ballooning yards over, and lots of poor corners as well.
As with much of football today, the quality of the smaller/weaker teams is higher but the quality at the top is not what it once was. The defending is good. The effort from the players is tremendous. Tight matches and late goals. Probably the best atmosphere's ever at a tournament with huge away support. It does need a few classic matches in the KO stage, and the talented players to start performing. If that happens it'll end up being a good tournament. |
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Don't agree with the comments on the ball... In SA it was damn obvious, it was like an air flow ball. This ball is decent.
Agree re the atmospheres being as good as any tournament I remember and pretty much full stadia for every game |
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Don't agree with the comments on the ball... In SA it was damn obvious, it was like an air flow ball. This ball is decent.
Agree re the atmospheres being as good as any tournament I remember and pretty much full stadia for every game |
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The standard of football has been good across the board for the early rounds and the refereeing on the whole, has been excellent. Like most tournaments it will build and build after each knock out round, so it is a bit too early to compare with previous Euros and WCs. Looking forward to seeing some of the teams / top players really turning it on.
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Some of the matches have been a bit dull but I don't necessarily think it has encouraged negative football. The weaker teams are obviously going to be dominated in terms of possession - this isn't setting up negatively, it's just a fact.
Another fact is that so many of them are still in with a chance of qualification come the last game, which has been brilliant in terms of reducing the number of dead rubber matches in the final round of group games. |
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I like it! The only thing I hate is how unfair the round of 16 is going to be. It's much better to come second in many groups and some group winners play runners up whereas others play 3rd placed teams. Some runners up play runners up. It makes no sense and is highly unfair. And I don't like the fact that all the strong teams are on one side of the draw and will eliminate each other before the final, whereas weaker teams have almost a free pass to the semis.
It's been a decent tournament, however as alluded to by some earlier posters, there have been games where its obvious teams have settled for a draw, meaning we've had some really boring games. |
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Agree with you completely, Italy have won their group and to win the tournament, they will most likely have to beat Spain, France and Germany along the way. They were better off finishing second.
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The idea that it's somehow "unfair" that a group winner are going to have to play a runner-up & then two group winners to get to the final is daft. Both sides have three group winners, and the fact Spain & England failed to win theirs doesn't make it unfair.
It's also silly to say lesser teams are going to ease their way to the semis - assuming this refers to Wales and Croatia, they've done this because they won their respective groups ahead of England and Spain. Simply luck of the draw. |
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Thoroughly enjoying it so far.
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A bit lacklustre for me, though I wasn't excited for this tournament anyway, just seemed to lack something, maybe because these days, we get to see these exciting players week in week out and usually at a higher level of football then at International level.
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It's not been great IMO. I didn't even bother watching yesterday's games.
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The idea that it's somehow "unfair" that a group winner are going to have to play a runner-up & then two group winners to get to the final is daft. Both sides have three group winners, and the fact Spain & England failed to win theirs doesn't make it unfair.
It's also silly to say lesser teams are going to ease their way to the semis - assuming this refers to Wales and Croatia, they've done this because they won their respective groups ahead of England and Spain. Simply luck of the draw. |
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Italy have the worst draw in the tournament! England were meant to have the best, but decided to complicate their lives (a million fold) for no reason.
Only unfortunate thing for Italy is they cant get themselves in the easy half of the draw now, theyve won their group whatever. |
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