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These players have all played well before, and have to take the main responsibility here. Their heads went.
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Well if their heads went then I think that was mostly down to them not playing together as a set team consistently. He was making far too many changes. 5 per game on average. That's not the way to get a team of players confidently playing together. God knows what he was up to. I was hoping we'd hear more about his thinking but it appears he's not going to talk.
The 2nd goal seemed to flick a panic switch, and it just degenerated into a farce. Pressure, panic, fear and every other negative thing took hold of the whole side. |
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He picked the best players. They are supposed to good enough to adapt.
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i don't get it ,,, you were saying how well we played against Wales , how we dominated the game etc.... look at the type of goals we scored all tournament : a penalty ,a free kick a close range effort and a last minute goal , nothing has come from creativity , no real quality build up and we havent created nothing like that all tournament , we have been no where near good enough, are you just looking at it emotionally without any pragmatism and not seeing ti for what it is,,, a poor manager with no decisions, picked a poor squad,, and played a very poor way of playing, with no way of changing it when needed,, I don't have a pop at England for the fun of it, i see the wood through the trees
We didn't play well tonight, we were awful. |
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Why is it always the mangers fault (they get sacked) when it could be just our shit players?????
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I dont buy that. Until the 2nd goal, we played the ball around well, we were moving all over the place, and running Iceland ragged. Same as we did in the group games, for which the first two had these players in the main.
The 2nd goal seemed to flick a panic switch, and it just degenerated into a farce. Pressure, panic, fear and every other negative thing took hold of the whole side. ![]() ![]() ![]() played the ball around well ![]() ![]() ,, we misplaced passes all over the pitch ,, i'm beginning to think you either know nothing about football or are a WUM
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I can't believe we stormed qualifying so easily and put in this pathetic performance in the tournament.
![]() Time for a change and style of manager. |
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WTF were you watching the same game
![]() ![]() ![]() played the ball around well ![]() ![]() ,, we misplaced passes all over the pitch ,, i'm beginning to think you either know nothing about football or are a WUM |
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Why is it always the mangers fault (they get sacked) when it could be just our shit players?????
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What a dismal performance with just two exceptions in Vardy and Rashford neither of whom had enough time to make a difference really.
Kane hasn't been great and should have been left out for Vardy and Rooney was so poor in the second half it's untrue, his time as an England player is over for sure. Hodgson never seemed to know what team was best nor what system they should use and he never struck me as a man who would inspire players to up their game. One wonders what he said at half time 'cos they were actually worse afterwards. |
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C'mon Sulla,, he didnt pick the best players at all , he picked his favourites and shoe horned them in.
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Likewise yourself. I'm talking about the start of the game, until they scored the 2nd goal, which I admit was not long, but it was confident, and we looked as though we would win at ease. The 2nd goal changed it all, and we went to pieces.
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Only 9 weeks till the world cup qualifying starts.
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I dont buy that. Until the 2nd goal, we played the ball around well, we were moving all over the place, and running Iceland ragged. Same as we did in the group games, for which the first two had these players in the main.
The 2nd goal seemed to flick a panic switch, and it just degenerated into a farce. Pressure, panic, fear and every other negative thing took hold of the whole side. |
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Perhaps we should Brexit the World Cup and Euros and just have our own little competition against the Isle of Man, Guernsey, Jersey, Sark, Gibraltar....
we might get the semis ! In fact, forget the competition! |
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There wasn't one game in this tournament where England played with any creativity or fluidity.
Anyone who thinks different needs to hit specsavers asap. |
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Which great players didn't make the squad ?
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Rooney looked like a man aged 45 tonight. It was cringeworthy watching him huff and puff around the field like Phil Mitchell in a pair of shorts. Retire from international football now you clown.
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I can't believe we stormed qualifying so easily and put in this pathetic performance in the tournament.
![]() Time for a change and style of manager. |
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You only have to listen to one match with him commentating to know he's a complete and utter moron. Im putting any success he's ever had down to Eileen Drewery.
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"Lord Nelson, Lord Beaverbrook, Sir Winston Churchill, Sir Anthony Eden, Clement Attlee, Henry Cooper, Lady Diana, Maggie Thatcher, can you hear me? Maggie Thatcher .................... your boys took a hell of a beating! Your boys took a hell of a beating!"
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Why is it always the mangers fault (they get sacked) when it could be just our shit players?????
![]() Virtually the same players that got walloped in a home world cup - change the manager and we are 9 for 9, and playing like world beaters. Mind you, the players showed a complete lack of heart in general. |
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"Lord Nelson, Lord Beaverbrook, Sir Winston Churchill, Sir Anthony Eden, Clement Attlee, Henry Cooper, Lady Diana, Maggie Thatcher, can you hear me? Maggie Thatcher .................... your boys took a hell of a beating! Your boys took a hell of a beating!"
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He picked the best players. They are supposed to good enough to adapt.
All the big teams pick players for their positions, Germany, Spain, Italy and France all do and that's just the European teams and only change it if they get a rash of injuries. What is the point in picking and playing Kane, when in the first game he took the ruddy corners, and in this he was taking the free kicks?. |
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We did play well against Wales, and scored two goals.
We didn't play well tonight, we were awful. |
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