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Last 16: England vs Iceland - (27/6/16) KO 8pm, ITV1/HD
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Pee
27-06-2016
I have to say I found tonight rather hilarious.
gemma-the-husky
27-06-2016
There was a couple of times when Vardy was on the edge of the box, and a ball over the top might have been on. At Leicester, the ball would have been played instantly.

Here the ball just went sideways or backwards.
SegaGamer
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Leeah:
“Why is it always the mangers fault (they get sacked) when it could be just our shit players????? ”

The players have been criticised, but the manager is the one who set this up.

I have said it a few times tonight, England had everything in place before the tournament began to at least get to the Quarter Finals playing good football at the same time. He ditched all of that though. He changed the formation, the style of football, some of the players. Why change so much when everything was going so well just before the tournament begins ? it's madness.

I'm not necessarily blaming Rooney, but it's shoehorning him into a position that he has never played that has cost us. That one decision changed everything . Our formation, our style of football, our attack, everything has changed. The players weren't used to playing that way, they have never played the formation and style of football that we played throughout this tournament for England. Hodgson had it right in the qualifiers and the friendlies and he ditched it, he's an absolute idiot.
pete137
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Raises question marks about Wales for me if England could beat them with a disorganised side not playing good football (and the Welsh goal was due to a Hart error).”

I doubt Wales give a toss about that now. They are still in the tournament.
misawa97
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Raises question marks about Wales for me if England could beat them with a disorganised side not playing good football (and the Welsh goal was due to a Hart error).”

Coleman was to blame. He stupidly set out the team negatively.

If he would of actually allowed the players to express themselves and attack England with numbers they could of won that game.
owen10
27-06-2016
I was watching the game tonight and i did not see one cross into the box

Why is Sturridge playing on the right when he is left footed

Why is Sterling playing on the left when he is right footed

If it is not working, why dont they switch sides
abarthman
27-06-2016
Dear England,

It's rubbish being out of Europe when you don't want to be, isn't it?

Your pals,
Scotland








(Shamelessly pinched from Facebook!)
Irishguy123
27-06-2016
Watching Sky Sports news just there, someone saying how he felt "so sorry for the players, cause this result is going to live with them forever". I mean, fair enough, England were the clear favourites, but Iceland aren't exactly San Marino either. They didn't lose a match in their group, they played great tonight, give credit where it's due.
victor mel
27-06-2016
I was annoyed wirh the England post match conference. No chance to question the Manager about the game just a pre written resignation speech then away! He should be held accountable it's a privilege To be a country manager and one where you have to justify everything. You're representing a nation. The way he arrogantly dismissed any questions from his PR was disgusting.
Jason C
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Raises question marks about Wales for me if England could beat them with a disorganised side not playing good football (and the Welsh goal was due to a Hart error).”

You've really got an axe to grind with the Welsh, haven't you?
pete137
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Raises question marks about Wales for me if England could beat them with a disorganised side not playing good football (and the Welsh goal was due to a Hart error).”

I doubt Wales give a toss about that now. They are still in the tournament.
rhumble
27-06-2016
Hodgson made me concerned when he was talking before that game tonight about we had the players to go on and win tournaments in years to come ,, the silly idiot needed to be reminded we were still in a tournament, the dozy sod almost looked surprised and said flummoxed,, we can with this as well, gave me no confidence at all.
misawa97
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by SegaGamer:
“The players have been criticised, but the manager is the one who set this up.

I have said it a few times tonight, England had everything in place before the tournament began to at least get to the Quarter Finals playing good football at the same time. He ditched all of that though. He changed the formation, the style of football, some of the players. Why change so much when everything was going so well just before the tournament begins ? it's madness.

I'm not necessarily blaming Rooney, but it's shoehorning him into a position that he has never played that has cost us. That one decision changed everything . Our formation, our style of football, our attack, everything has changed. The players weren't used to playing that way, they have never played the formation and style of football that we played throughout this tournament for England. Hodgson had it right in the qualifiers and the friendlies and he ditched it, he's an absolute idiot.”

Completely indefensible to play Rooney in midfield.

Don't know how anyone could argue Rooney deserved a place in that side, it was either a start up front or no place at all.
Tourista
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Deep Purple:
“Likewise yourself. I'm talking about the start of the game, until they scored the 2nd goal, which I admit was not long, but it was confident, and we looked as though we would win at ease. The 2nd goal changed it all, and we went to pieces.”

What nonsense.

The second Iceland scored the look in the players eyes told it all as it wasn't going to "plan" (whatever that was) . They had defeat written all over them, just go back and look again if you don't believe me DP.

After the second goal, yep the team did "go to pieces", but they had lost the plot long before that.
Inspiration
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“Hodgson made me concerned when he was talking before that game tonight about we had the players to go on and win tournaments in years to come ,, the silly idiot needed to be reminded we were still in a tournament, the dozy sod almost looked surprised and said flummoxed,, we can with this as well, gave me no confidence at all.”

Yeah something not right there. The pre-written resignation statement is equally odd. Maybe he had already decided this was his final tournament and was just waiting to go out.
bluefb
27-06-2016
Watching the Italy-Spain highlights after watching England-Iceland, it's like watching a different sport. The sharpness, the pace, the invention...
Tourista
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“Hodgson made me concerned when he was talking before that game tonight about we had the players to go on and win tournaments in years to come ,, the silly idiot needed to be reminded we were still in a tournament, the dozy sod almost looked surprised and said flummoxed,, we can with this as well, gave me no confidence at all.”

From the first game, you only needed to see his face to know that he may "talk" a good game, but isn't cut out for international management.

I'll admit that after the qualifying round I hoped that he was turning the team into one that at least could compete at this higher level, sadly I was totally wrong.
Tourista
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by victor mel:
“I was annoyed wirh the England post match conference. No chance to question the Manager about the game just a pre written resignation speech then away! He should be held accountable it's a privilege To be a country manager and one where you have to justify everything. You're representing a nation. The way he arrogantly dismissed any questions from his PR was disgusting.”

That attitude was poor, but simply getting up after the match and walking down the tunnel was worse.

To me, that didn't just show contempt for the fans who watched that farce of a game, it also was poor when his players were still out there. Did he not think he could have gone out there and commiserate?. I know that it isn't much, but wasn't he supposed to be their leader?.
Eurostar
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Jason C:
“You've really got an axe to grind with the Welsh, haven't you?”

Haven't been overly impressed by them so far - I think the fact they have Bale in their ranks too makes it hard to regard them as a true underdog like an Iceland or a Northern Ireland.
Jim_McIntosh
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Deep Purple:
“I've backed England all the way in this tournament, and thought we played well in the group games, but that performance was back to the bad old days, and worse. As soon as we conceded the 2nd goal, the confidence, and discipline instantly disappeared, and never returned. It just got worse.

Players couldn't do the basics, and it got worse with each minute.

Well done Iceland though. They maintained their levels, and were very organised.”

I think they blew it mentally as soon as Iceland scored. After the 2nd went in they looked totally bereft of belief. Not just for the result or the lack of chances but the simple things like controlling the ball and passing suddenly became harder as they looked more nervous and those nerves seemed to spread around the entire team. Maybe Dixon was right at the start when he answered his own question about why they have similar outcomes each time.

I thought they played well in stages in the opening games too but as soon as they hit the knockout stages they just seem inhibited and afraid, to be honest. It's a familiar story.
Eurostar
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“Yeah something not right there. The pre-written resignation statement is equally odd. Maybe he had already decided this was his final tournament and was just waiting to go out.”

That was a bit bonkers post-match. He should have just spoken from the heart.
howard h
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by abarthman:
“Dear England,

It's rubbish being out of Europe when you don't want to be, isn't it?

Your pals,
Scotland
(Shamelessly pinched from Facebook!)”

How many likes can you give?!

Maybe Ingurland can ask Queen McSturgeon to be their manager?
rhumble
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Inspiration:
“Yeah something not right there. The pre-written resignation statement is equally odd. Maybe he had already decided this was his final tournament and was just waiting to go out.”

I don't understand how he still was in the job after 2014 ,, we were poor in Euro 2012 but he was given the excuse by the FA that he had to pick the squad up after Capello's disappointment in 2010 ,, after how bad we were in 2014 he should have been sacked there and then.

We qualified easily for this year down to a change of rules in the qualifiers, which meant pretty much everyone would qualify, even in a group we could have won we were poor, we stared off with a fantastic first hafl against Russia, one of the best i've seen us play in tournament football for years, but then Hodgson completely missed the flow of the play and we suffered for it, we never looked the same since.
Jason C
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Haven't been overly impressed by them so far - I think the fact they have Bale in their ranks too makes it hard to regard them as a true underdog like an Iceland or a Northern Ireland.”

True; I've said all along that Bale single-handedly elevates Wales to a level much, much higher than the one they'd be at without him.

Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“That was a bit bonkers post-match. He should have just spoken from the heart.”

He's too much of a company man to resign in a manner other than the one the FA clearly wanted.
rhumble
27-06-2016
delete, i cant be arsed tbh
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