I'd enjoy watching them a bit more if they hadn't got a £60m superstar in their ranks : it's a bit like watching the Gareth Bale Show at times.

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lol

i had to give in, in the end, i was getting headache

Do you think making those changes for the Slovakia game actually affected the way we played after that

We relied far too much on youth to try and either score the goals, or be the main supply line, when having someone more experienced then Ali or Kane would have been far better.

But overall this tournament was an omnishambles even before it had started, as the squad was totally inadequate, and the fact that we had no shape, set-up, or any idea about tactics, it was as if we were set for failure from the very moment we qualified.

The next manager or head coach must not pick or have favourites, like Roy seemed to with Sterling and Whilshire, two picks which were completely and utterly wasted ones.

It was this song probably https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX7MN9312eI

Is that you Raheem? 😀

Here we are again, another shambolic tournament exit, another inquest. It happened two years ago, it will happen again in two years time, it will always happen. We are just not as good as we think we are, the players never do for England what they do for their clubs and we don't have any good, young English managers coming through. We'll never win another international trophy, ever.

Any sign of Rooney retiring from international football!???!!

Let him finish his cigarette first !

The reason for the failure of the England national team is the so called English Premier League only a third of the players that play in that are eligible to play for the English national team a fact the English FA should be disgusted with and should be trying to remedy but as long as money talks and bullshit walks nothing will ever change.

He is not retiring

The MOTD panel absolutely savaged Roy. Shearer said Roy has been making it up as he goes along. They all felt he didn't have a clue.

It feels very much like the Liverpool days to me. There was a sense then too that he was out of his depth. I wonder if he was just too proud to ever admit it? Or are we being too harsh? Not sure I've ever seen an England manager so roundly criticised. Usually they find some positive somewhere.

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But it was nothing everyone didnt already know so why was he still in the job ? He wasnt good enough to be appointed in the first place, but was given the job simply because he was English, safe, a yes man, a steady pair of hands, who had "done his time" and earned the right to the job, even though he was an outdated dinosaur of the game.

They failed at his first tournament but got away with it as everyone was focusing on the world cup and what he could do with "his" team. Well after 2 years in the job with "his" team they were humiliated at the world cup and he should have been sacked right then. But no, the shambles that was always doomed for failure was allowed to go on for yet another 2 years until you get to this latest humiliation. Blame the FA for not sacking him sooner.

I agreed with Lee Dixon last night

England just don't have a way of playing, were always reacting to how other teams play, always chopping and changing both players and formations.

Italy, Spain, Germany and the rest of the big teams (and Iceland for that matter!) all have a defined way of setting up and playing. A system they are used to and comfortable with. Hodgson singularly failed to do this for England.

We ended up with Kane taking free kicks, Vardy twiddling his thumbs on the bench, Sturidge on the wing, Rashford taking corners, and a midfield that seems to hinge on our all time top scoring striker and a half fit Wilshire. Meanwhile our defence is bereft of leadership and sits in front of an error prone goalkeeper.

We are crying out for width but are dependent on Sterling. Why Roy decided to pick a player who is so badly out of form is beyond me, surely we could have accommodated Allbrighton or Townsend in place of Henderson (seriously what was the point?) or Milner?

I honestly don't think we've moved forward under Roy at all and he deserves every bit of criticism he gets.

I think EVERYONE will savage England after this unforgiveable performance

The performance from many of these players was so abject and the plan (whatever that was) such a failure I'm starting to wonder if there wasn't some turmoil behind the scenes beforehand. Arguments or some such upheaval that would suggest why Roy lost the players so completely.

Totally agree with every word.

But will also add that every England team are always outplayed by their opponents because they have no skill or technique on the ball and cannot string together three passes without losing the ball. Of course it doesn't help when the manager plays them out of position or uses them to take set pieces, or doesn't have a game plan.
They had a week to prepare for Iceland, what the hell have they been doing? Didn't Hodgson know about their long throw-ins and how it's better not to have your shortest player mark their tallest target man?

The players need to go back to St George's Park and learn the basics, you know, how to kick the ball, how to pass the ball, how to shoot on target, etc.

As for Hodgson, good riddance! He's absolutely clueless! Should never have got the job, didn't the FA remember his time at Liverpool?

No, they wanted to finish early to get off on their summer beach holidays.

thanks........yes, I think that's the one !

here's a clip of the Icelandic fans singing it.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrMQgVta0RU

great stuff !........

edit.......replaced clip, found a better one !

This is what I can never understand with the England set up. I follow baseball and for the Allstar Game they pick all the players by their positions. Now I am not suggesting a fan vote for the England team, although that would be interesting, but why the hell pick players not in their positions. I think a slightly lesser player who has had a good season in that position is far better than a so called star playing out of position. This has always puzzled me about England.

I said after the World Cup I wouldn't follow England again at a tournament as the Germany game was an embarrassment, of course I got sucked into the hope again. This one was humiliating.

I don't know why, it was 4 or 5 of your players who were key to being terrible.

Twice in a week lol

There is some rubbish spoken, surprisingly for me, by Shearer this time.

Whilst we were favourites to win, Iceland has looked one of the most accomplished teams throughout the tournament.
In the group games they were way better than us, so really, the loss was not entirely unexpected.