Finally something worth transcribing! I like to do transcripts when the forum is divided on an issue and I think yesterday was the first real time it's happened. Some people think Andy was trying to do the right thing, some people think he was being sly and deliberate.

Personally I thought the latter until I actually re-watched and transcribed. Now I'm not so sure. But here's the full transcript of 'whisper-gate' including the build-up so perhaps it'll help other people make up their minds too...

GARDEN

Andy is sitting outside with Lateysha, Alex and Laura…

ANDY: I feel really…Teesh? I feel really conflicted.

LATEYSHA: What does that mean?

ANDY: I feel really…

LATEYSHA: Bad?

ANDY: Because I don’t want to hurt Jason’s feelings.

LATEYSHA: That’s exactly how I feel.

ANDY: And now there’s more difficulty for Jason and I don’t want to say this to Jason. But when we were in the brain the other day you did say that Charlie had told you he was a game-player and that’s why he does the washing up and you thought that’s why he does the cooking and the washing up.

LATEYSHA: Hmmm… And I don’t really want to cause any argument between them.

ANDY: And now he’s genuinely had his feelings really hurt.

LATEYSHA: I don’t want to cause shit and I don’t want to say that, do you know what I mean? For the both of them.

ANDY: I know, it would throw a really grenade into things wouldn’t it?

LATEYSHA: It would be horrible, a really awkward situation.

ANDY: Well look, I’m not going to say anything to… I feel like a loyalty to Jason because he’s looked after me.

LATEYSHA: I don’t even think he is one but obviously because I was told… It’s just… I couldn’t just… It sticks in your head doesn’t it?

ALEX: Yes it does. If he found that out it wouldn’t go down well.

LATEYSHA: Exactly, I don’t think it would.

ANDY: Why did she even say that?

LATEYSHA: I heard her say it at the table – and I said, “What do you mean by saying Jason is a game player?” and I was like, “Oh is that why he’s really nice and stuff? Because you know he’s always… he always wants to cook and do the cleaning and stuff?” and she was like, “Yeah yeah.”

ALEX: Just because he wants to be in the final doesn’t mean he’s a game-player. Who here doesn’t want to be in the final?


THE SNUG

Later now and Andy has gone to talk to Emma.

ANDY: Teesh said to me last week, during a task, “Do you know Jason’s a gameplayer? Because Charlie has told me. Jason is a gameplayer and that’s why he’s doing the cooking and the cleaning, because he wants to be popular with people. And he won’t let me cook or clean.”

EMMA: Hmmm… Really?

ANDY: And so she said to him today, “Oh I don’t mean it, I think you’re a lovely guy, I think you’re a really nice person. Oh it’s not really… Oh I don’t really mean it…” It’s bullshit.

EMMA: She’d actually already said it.

ANDY: It’s bullshit. She said it to Sam. She said it to me. I don’t know who else she said it to.

EMMA: I mean, I don’t think he is. I love Jason. I think he’s so amazing and… I mean all he is is kind and…

ANDY: Well he’s been, you know, he’s been generally… he’s been good to me… I mean…he’s…

EMMA: You know what? I mean clearly he’s having a really bad day today, he’s lost like a stone and a half of muscle, he feels probably really weak, he’s having like this crazy situation with Charlie being in here and he doesn’t know what to do about it, it’s playing out on national tv. It’s like he’s… I don’t know…

ANDY: It’s almost immaterial, this is something bigger. This is people in the house feeling they can get away with talking shit and telling lies about people behind their backs and no one ever calls them out on it and I should have called her out on it earlier today.

EMMA: I mean, cos obviously when she said Jason I was like “Oh she’s only just saying that because she knows he’ll take it the least personally.”

ANDY: No. She said it because she thinks it. Or she certainly thought it in the past.

EMMA: Well, what? Should we tell him? Obviously I can’t because I’ve become friends with Charlie.

ANDY: So what do I do? I mean, I’m not really friends with Charlie but I like her, I’ve got on well with her… And Teesh, I’m getting on okay with her. But I feel like actually as someone who’s closest to Jason I should sit down with Jason and say, “Look… You deserve to know.” If I was Jason I’d want to know.

EMMA: To be honest so would I.


LOUNGE

Next, Andy has gone to talk to Charlie about the matter.

CHARLIE: I do know Jason, very well. And how he’s been in here? Yeah, I’ll be truthful, he’s not been himself in here.

ANDY: I’m not coming to you to have this conversation because I’m wanting to have a go at you I’m just… Because I felt trapped because… he’s been on my side.

CHARLIE: Well I’m glad that you’ve come to speak about it to me.

ANDY: If I had been called that and I was worrying about why I’d been called that, I would like to know the real reason why I’d been called that.

CHARLIE: Well you can ask her because I haven’t said that.

ANDY: Right, so it seems to me it’s like a case of Chinese whispers. Teesh has no malice towards Jason whatsoever.

CHARLIE: I’m not going to sit there and slag him off. And she didn’t slag him off once. So that’s that.

ANDY: I’m still left with this question… Like Jason is still asking himself, “Why was I…?”

CHARLIE: But then Jayne could be asking herself questions too. It’s not just Jason in all of this.


THE SNUG

Andy has now gone to the snug, to talk to Lateysha, Sam, Ryan and Alex

ANDY: Er… I felt like I had to talk to Charlie and find out whether she was saying to people that he was a game-player… erm… And she explained to me her point of view and what she was about.

RYAN: What did she say?

ANDY: She said… Well it was a private conversation but she just said basically that she thought he was being different in here to the way he is in the outside world. It’s an awkward situation for me because I felt like… I have felt like at times people have been talking about me behind my back in an unfair way and it’s hurt my feelings and made me feel very insecure and paranoid in this house. I know it’s happened and I don’t like it. And I like to talk to people’s faces and find out what is really going on. I’m not going to have these conversations and then not go to Charlie and ask her what the deal is.

ALEX: Fair play.

ANDY: I think we all feel a bit bad for Jason that we’re having this conversation and he doesn’t even know it’s happening.

LATEYSHA: Of course.

ANDY: I feel like shit.

LATEYSHA: So do I. I was saying in there, I can’t even be in the same room as him. I feel awkward. I feel bad for him I feel—

ANDY: --I do feel, particularly in the bedroom sometimes there are whispering conversations about other people in the house that make me feel uncomfortable that I don’t always think are fair. I don’t know what the blow-up was with Hughie but I think it was something he might have said about you (LATEYSHA) before he met you and Natalie and you guys were all talking about Hughie and it seemed pretty harsh to me, when an hour before we’d been lying on the bed with Hughie and—

LATEYHSA: --I didn’t say nothing harsh about Hughie, Andy—

ANDY: --It seemed like a conversation behind Hughie’s back that was harsh about Hughie.

LATEYSHA: Don’t ****ing sit there and act like I was slagging him off when I said everything to his face.

ANDY: The way I see it is that saying something to someone’s face doesn’t then give you carte-blanche to attack them behind their back.

RYAN: But what did she say that was—

SAM: --It wasn’t an attack thought, it was just a discussion—

ANDY: What I think is rude is talking about people behind their back in a nasty way.

RYAN: She was just expressing her feelings about what she felt about someone in this house.

ANDY: But that’s what makes me feel uncomfortable and other people too.

RYAN: But that’s not slagging someone off, there’s a difference between—

ANDY: --Don’t shout—

RYAN: --I’m not shouting, there’s a difference between slagging someone off and explaining how you feel about a situation to your friends about what’s happened.

LATEYSHA: I did not sit there and ****ing slag him off!

ANDY: Please don’t put words in my… don’t turn this into something it doesn’t need to be. All I’m trying to say is that there are times in this house where it feels like there can be a whispering campaign behind peoples back.

SAM: So have you never whispered about anyone in this house?

LATEYSHA: Do you know what? I didn’t slag him off. I was breaking my heart on my bed. I didn’t say anything bad about him. I said I’m sick of being pre-judged, blah blah blah.

ANDY: There is a reason why Jayne felt the need to sit up and stick up for Hughie, wasn’t there?

LATEYSHA: Tell me, what was bad about what came out of my mouth about Hughie when I was on the bed?

ANDY: It’s not just about you Teesh.

LATEYSHA: So who’s it about then? The other people on my bed? Is that what your saying?

ANDY: I’m not attacking you. I’m saying there was a conversation—

RYAN: --and what was the conversation?—

ANDY:--on that bed; that was harsh about Hughie.

LATEYSHA: I didn’t say a bad word about him.

ANDY: I don’t understand why my point is being turned into a personal attack on you.

LATEYSHA: I wouldn’t do half the things you do!

RYAN: Andy nothing you’ve said is even relevant.

SAM: Your trying to make out you’re a guarding angel in this place.

ANDY: No I’m not trying to make out I’m a guarding angel. But how did you react when you found out what Laura and Evelyn had said about you? You were shocked and hurt that someone had said something about you behind your back.

SAM: Your trying to make out people talk about each other behind peoples back. But I’m sure you have done that in this house.

RYAN: He’s just admitted that!

ANDY: But Sam was shocked and hurt that someone said something negative about him behind his back, right?

SAM: Right.

ANDY: But you’ve just done that. Right?

SAM: I’ve done what?

ANDY: You’ve said negative things about people behind their back.

SAM: What have I said? And who to?

ANDY: Well have you? You said everyone has.

SAM: No.

ANDY: You’ve not said anything?

SAM: No. Because I say it to their face.

ANDY: You’ve never said anything bad behind their back?

SAM: No.

RYAN: You’re speculating.

SAM: You’re speculating. Your trying to make me look bad now Andy.

ANDY: No I’m not trying to make you look bad.

SAM: Don’t try and get shit out of me mate.

ANDY: (GETTING UP TO LEAVE) I’m not trying to make you look bad.

RYAN: You are Andy and now you’re walking away from the situation--

SAM: --You just targeted me as well as Lateysha--

RYAN: --Walking away because it’s getting too much.

ANDY: Do you know? It’s not getting too much, I just know when there’s no point carrying on the conversation.

RYAN: You’re probably the biggest game-player in here.

ANDY: Well you’ve thought that from the start and I’m not so…

RYAN: No I haven’t thought that! I got voted the biggest game-player and…

(ANDY HAS WALKED OUT)

LATEYSHA: Is he trying to turn people against me or something? What’s he doing?

RYAN: It was about you it was—

LATEYSHA: (SHOUTING) I HATE HIM! I HATE HIM! I HATE HIM!


LOUNGE

Finally, Andy goes to talk to Jason.

ANDY: Do you know, for the first time since I got here I honestly don’t know if I can stay.

JASON: Sit down, sit down, if you want to talk…?

ANDY: I don’t know if I can to be honest Jason. I don’t know if I can. I just said to them I felt there was a lot of whispering and gossiping going on, in the bedroom, behind peoples backs and I don’t like it. It makes me feel uncomfortable. And I’ve just been laid in to.

JASON: Am I part of the gossiping thing? Because if I am then you can’t really talk to me.

ANDY: Do you know what? I’ve spent a whole afternoon and evening feeling really conflicted and… erm… erm…

JASON: If you want to talk?

ANDY: Do you know what? After that I don’t feel I owe anybody any ****ing loyalty.

JASON: So what’s happened?

ANDY: Teesh said to me, when I was in the brain… right, **** it, I’m just going to say it… Teesh said to me when I was in the brain, when we were on that task, she turned to me and she said “Oh Jason might be a gameplayer.”

JASON: Okay.

ANDY: Because he does the washing up and stuff and I want to do it. Jason might be a gameplayer. She said that to me last week.

JASON: Okay.

ANDY: And so when she said to you, “Oh I don’t mean it I think you’re a really lovely guy” it pissed me off. It makes me feel uncomfortable, it makes other people feel uncomfortable, I don’t think it’s on. I don’t think saying something to someone’s face then gives you carte-blanche to talk constantly about them behind their backs at the same time.

JASON: Have I got a bigger problem that just Teesh?

ANDY: … … …I think if I were you I’d have a conversation with Teesh.

Thanks for that!

Now...how can we squeeze all that onto a tennis ball?..

Thanks for that.

At the time I was agreeing with Andy, and after reading the transcript, I still agree with Andy.

The fact Andy never raised his voice once, and was calmly trying to discuss the issue, while the others got all defensive and loud, for me, meant Andy won that particular battle

It's all so pointless, he is clearly bored and creating drama.

I didn't even notice that when he eventually told Jason, he left Charlie out of the equation and made it seem like the game player thing started with Lateysha.

I noticed it & wondered why but then thought that Andy didn't really want to bring Charlie into it as Charlie told him all she said was that he was different on the outside with her. She didn't admit to the cooking and cleaning comments.

Edit. Thank you KT_Dog 👍

I thought he might have been trying to get nominated.

Well Charlie denied it but Andy was all about using the situation against Lateysha anyway. He'd been the one accused of being the gameplayer in week one and it stung and this was his revenge.

I can't wait for Andy to sit Chelsea down and lecture him on the awful whispering campaign he's conducted against Jayne, but that's not going to happen as Andy likes Chelsea, even voting for him to be spared over Evelyn in the reward task.

Andy is firmly Team Oldie and anti Team Young after his own treatment in the first week.

It does come across slightly like Andy is just sooooo bored that he's stirring up trouble just for the craic....carry on I say.

Yeah but Charlie did say he was playing a game to the two girls.

If Andy was bothered about Jason's feelings it would have been a private conversation between him and Lateysha, and then he could either tell Jason or not.

You see, that's why I thought last night too. There seemed to be no rhyme or reason to what he was doing. I even started a thread halfway through the episode asking if anyone could explain it to me... I just didn't get it.

But this morning, going through it all again line by line in order to transcribe it, it actually did become much clearer to me that he seemed to have a genuine, sincere (if perhaps misguided) purpose to what he was doing.

Andy's problem is that he's extremely bad at articulating himself. Which is kind of the opposite of what a lot of people are saying, presumably because of the fact he doesn't swear and has a less slang-laden vocabulary. But it's true, he really does struggle to get very simple points across to people and you can see it all throughout that transcript.

Bottom line should have been, "Lateysha, if you called Jason a game player you shouldn't have then pretended to him you didn't really think that. Not when you've already told everyone else behind his back you do." - perhaps adding, "And maybe we should all stop doing things like that too and then nobody will get hurt." - that really would have done. Instead he went all over the place trying to get that very simple point across in various different ways.

The closest he came to saying it properly was when he was talking with Emma. But what use is that? Yesterday she believed the queen started out as a poll dancer, today she spent an afternoon crying over a dead moth. You might as well tell a cat.

It appeared a bit unnecessary on Andys part.
I think he is genuinely disdainful of alot of the sillier younger ones and has the wherewithall to call them out for it irregardless if it makes life uncomfortable for himself.
His dispassionate style clashes nicely with Latysha and Ryans hysterical dramatics.
#teamdispassionate

BIB is just an example of what has been bothering him (a great example since it involved his friend being upset). What really bothers him seems to be:

ANDY: It’s almost immaterial, this is something bigger. This is people in the house feeling they can get away with talking shit and telling lies about people behind their backs and no one ever calls them out on it and I should have called her out on it earlier today.

He did talk with Jayne previously about her escaping and saying she wants to leave.. He mentioned how others could feel or be affected. Jayne gave her side of it---it wouldn't affect any HM and the discussion was done. I also thought it was an interesting conversation and there was no screaming.

I really like Andy and Jayne.

edit: Thanks for the transcript!!