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erin_p
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“Lateysha is ok and definitely did not deserve that interrogation from Andy.”

hardly an interrogation
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2160071
chameleon212
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Mint-Opinion:
“Obviously this is just my opinion based on my own observations...but your wrong.”

And my opinion based on my own observations is that you're wrong.
chameleon212
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“hardly an interrogation
http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2160071”

Yes, an interrogation. He was like a dog with a bone. Just because he doesn't shout it doesn't mean he isn't being aggressive.
Vicky8675309
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“Yes, an interrogation. He was like a dog with a bone. Just because he doesn't shout it doesn't mean he isn't being aggressive.”

If you observed a pattern of behavior that you didn't agree with and it hurt your feelings and your friend's feelings, would you speak up?
erin_p
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“Yes, an interrogation. He was like a dog with a bone. Just because he doesn't shout it doesn't mean he isn't being aggressive.”

In the pod we had one guy asking some questions with four others shouting back at him ..
chameleon212
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“If you observed a pattern of behavior that you didn't agree with and it hurt your feelings and your friend's feelings, would you speak up?”

The point is he had no idea what they were saying, just assuming it was malicious and trying to make everybody out as the bad guy.
chameleon212
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“In the pod we had one guy asking some questions with four others shouting back at him ..”

There are different types of aggression. Andy is being VERY passive aggressive, Lateysha's reaction is understandable.

Huge respect to Alex for standing up to him so calmly.
Vicky8675309
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“The point is he had no idea what they were saying, just assuming it was malicious and trying to make everybody out as the bad guy.”

He was in the bedroom and heard them gossiping and heard Jayne's defense of Hughie.
erin_p
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“The point is he had no idea what they were saying, just assuming it was malicious and trying to make everybody out as the bad guy.”

Andy was in the bedroom when they were bad mouthing Hughie , Jayne stood up for Hughie .
Andy was in the task room when Lateysha called Jason a game player .
Wainy84
27-06-2016
I feel sorry for him when they start to gang up on him.
Vicky8675309
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“There are different types of aggression. Andy is being VERY passive aggressive, Lateysha's reaction is understandable.

Huge respect to Alex for standing up to him so calmly.”

Alex didn't stand up to him and in fact he said:
"ALEX: Just because he wants to be in the final doesn’t mean he’s a game-player. Who here doesn’t want to be in the final?"

IIRC Alex even started that off with "fair point, just because..." but that is relying on my memory. Regardless, Alex didn't stand up to Andy and seemed to agree with that one point. It wasn't until Alex was alone with Jason that he said Andy was pompous or something like that. I disagree with the "pompous" bit.

you still didn't answer my question of "If you observed a pattern of behavior that you didn't agree with and it hurt your feelings and your friend's feelings, would you speak up?" but then you don't have to answer that question
erin_p
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“There are different types of aggression. Andy is being VERY passive aggressive, Lateysha's reaction is understandable.

Huge respect to Alex for standing up to him so calmly.”

He did
Vicky8675309
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“He did ”

no he didn't.
lol, it's easy to confuse it since Alex is always hiding then occasionally pops up to say a sentence or two. He agreed with Andy in the pod...said something like "fair point, everyone wants to make it to the final and that doesn't make them a game player" or something like that. Then later when he had Jason alone, he said Andy was pompous or patronizing. He never said it to Andy's face.
chameleon212
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by Vicky8675309:
“Alex didn't stand up to him and in fact he said:
"ALEX: Just because he wants to be in the final doesn’t mean he’s a game-player. Who here doesn’t want to be in the final?"

IIRC Alex even started that off with "fair point, just because..." but that is relying on my memory. Regardless, Alex didn't stand up to Andy and seemed to agree with that one point. It wasn't until Alex was alone with Jason that he said Andy was pompous or something like that. I disagree with the "pompous" bit.

you still didn't answer my question of "If you observed a pattern of behavior that you didn't agree with and it hurt your feelings and your friend's feelings, would you speak up?" but then you don't have to answer that question”

I would speak up once I knew the facts which Andy clearly didn't as all he said was he overheard Jayne defending Hughie.

There is a difference between speaking up and stirring. If Andy doesn't want people to think of him negatively he should look at his own gossipy, patronising behaviour.
Vicky8675309
27-06-2016
Originally Posted by chameleon212:
“I would speak up once I knew the facts which Andy clearly didn't as all he said was he overheard Jayne defending Hughie.

There is a difference between speaking up and stirring. If Andy doesn't want people to think of him negatively he should look at his own gossipy, patronising behaviour.”

Andy gathered facts by talking to Charlie which you think of as being like a snake (to gather facts...whatever). Andy heard the bed bitching crew and heard Jayne's defense so that was all he needed to use as an example of malicious gossip. I don't think Andy gives a shit was these maliciously gossipy ignorant fools think of him and good on him for not caving in to mob rules mentality.
Paulo Leeds
28-06-2016
he said he was "smug"
hooter
28-06-2016
Originally Posted by Paulo Leeds:
“he said he was "smug"”

At least he didn't" have ago at the wig
Vicky8675309
28-06-2016
Originally Posted by Paulo Leeds:
“he said he was "smug"”

Thank you! Alex tends to mumble but in this case it was my poor memory.
Scots rool
28-06-2016
Originally Posted by Paulo Leeds:
“Didn't Alex say that Andy was "very smug" to someone?”

Yes, he said to Jason, ''Andy sometimes comes across as smug when speaking to others''.
Paulo Leeds
28-06-2016
Alex seemed like a fairly sound and genuine guy and not one to bitch.

he seemed really nervous at the launch too.

wonder if he's different when out on the town with his BFF, Vicky
erin_p
28-06-2016
The clique all nominated the same .
Jason nominated Lateysha: “Absolutely nothing to do with her saying that I’m a game player” His second nomination was Jayne

Lateysha nominated Andy: ” Her second nomination was Jayne.

Andy nominated Georgina and Evelyn.

Chelsea nominated Jayne and Evelyn

Jayne nominated Andy and Chelsea.

Emma nominated Georgina: Her second nomination was Jayne

Georgina nominate Andy Her second nomination was Jayne.

Evelyn nominated Georgina and Ryan.

Hughie nominated Andy and Jayne. shocked at Hughie re Jayne

Alex nominated Andy and Jayne.

Jackson nominated Andy and Jayne.

Sam nominated Andy: His second nomination was Jayne.

Charlie nominated Evelyn and Laura.

Ryan nominated Andy and Jayne.

Laura nominated Andy and Georgina.


Now considering the hate Georgina has for Evelyn you would think she would have nominated her , seem Andy and Jayne were the two Hms on the cliques slate .
Alrightmate
28-06-2016
The clique is the group on the bed coddling Georgina for being nominated while the other nominees have to suck it up and get on with it.
erin_p
01-07-2016
Clique in shock at Georgina eviction .
Eve Elle
01-07-2016
Originally Posted by erin_p:
“Clique in shock at Georgina eviction .”

It's a literal... reality check.
Paulo Leeds
08-07-2016
is the Bedroom Clique now dead?
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