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Next England Manager?
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codeblue
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by axlgod:
“It's so predictable isn't it.”

this is the FA here, they need another boring yes man

if this happens, it will be another tournament without me watching england!
Meols
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Talk about rewarding failure, he hasn't been too good in his last few jobs, no thanks to him.”

Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Nooooo, please not Wenger.”

A number of posters have produced interesting suggestions. Forgive me for not having read the whole thread but who would you choose as opposed to dismissing the suggestions of others?
Dixon
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by axlgod:
“It's so predictable isn't it.”

They've tried every type of manager except a very smart ex player. Germany did it with Beckenbauer, so i don't see why we shouldn't give it a shot.
Lamps is the smartest player we have.
celesti
29-06-2016
Not convinced that smart won't be treated with suspicion in football, although being one of the boys would help that somewhat.
Jim_McIntosh
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“Hiring Hiddink wouldn't be rewarding failure, it'd be because of his history of doing well at international level. Name the contenders with a spotless record, by all means.”

Correct. No guarantees of success no matter who you go for as the issues go deeper than the manager otherwise they wouldn't all fail in similar ways. Best thing you can do is try someone experienced, respected, and who has had relative success in the past. He's had failures like every other manager of course. Even if you found a manager who had never put a foot wrong that would be no guarantee they would get the results England thinks it should be getting.

I'd rather (if I was English and in the current situation) have a manager who had some successes and failures rather than someone with no discernible success to speak of. He's respected, calm, he can steady a ship for a couple of years.

Whether he could handle the hysteria that follows the job around I don't know but I'd give him more chance than any other names I've seen. I sort of doubt he would take it though. I wouldn't, in his position. Poisoned chalice.
Marmite Baby
29-06-2016
Rafael Benitez
Xela M
29-06-2016
Anyone German or Italian (except Capello - England picked the only rubbish Italian manager!)
Dixon
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by celesti:
“Not convinced that smart won't be treated with suspicion in football, although being one of the boys would help that somewhat.”

They have to have had some connection, so being one of the "boys" shouldn't count against him.
But, he's not been in the failed set-up and doesn't have any negative baggage as a manager.
If he didn't work out we'd be no worse off than where we currently are, so we're not exactly risking much.
Someone as bright as Lamps, might just be the one who can settle the lads down, get them relaxed and able to perform for the games that really matter.
Marti S
29-06-2016
Who is Lamps?
Croctacus
29-06-2016
Can we have Klinsmann please?
codeblue
29-06-2016
ok im calling it, as many other forum members have.

Gareth southgate is the next manager. Martin Glenn is conning everyone.

A shambles of the highest order.
axlgod
29-06-2016
I'm going to call it.
If the F.A give Southgate the job, the players that finished the game against Iceland, will be starting in his first match in charge.
He wouldn't want to rock the boat.
Xela M
29-06-2016
I think it might be a personal challenge for Low to make something out of the England team.
celesti
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by Dixon:
“They have to have had some connection, so being one of the "boys" shouldn't count against him.
But, he's not been in the failed set-up and doesn't have any negative baggage as a manager.
If he didn't work out we'd be no worse off than where we currently are, so we're not exactly risking much.
Someone as bright as Lamps, might just be the one who can settle the lads down, get them relaxed and able to perform for the games that really matter.”

Yeah, I mean it'd work in his favour. Intelligence itself I'm not sure, football has a mistrust of the intellectual sadly.
heiker
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by axlgod:
“I'm going to call it.
If the F.A give Southgate the job, the players that finished the game against Iceland, will be starting in his first match in charge.
He wouldn't want to rock the boat.”

England needs a manager that when he walks in the changing room the entire team lose control of their bowels.

Southgate is clearly not this man. He will try to be their mate and will consequently not win their respect
rhynoGB
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by Croctacus:
“Can we have Klinsmann please?”

That's who I wanted before hodgson. I'd just offer him the job.
Nikelodeon81
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by heiker:
“England needs a manager that when he walks in the changing room the entire team lose control of their bowels.”

Big Sam could do at. Especially if he walked in without a shirt.
owen10
29-06-2016
I think Laurent Blanc

Guus Hiddink

And

Joachim Low


Would be good candidates
pete137
29-06-2016
Hoddle has moved to second favorite. Could it actually happen ?
Meols
29-06-2016
If we're going foreign I'd actually take Hiddink, Blanc, Bilic. Klinsmann for some reason I just can't quite take to. No big reason, just a hunch.

I can see few English candidates but I'd be more than happy to have Hoddle back in charge with perhaps Gareth Southgate and Eddie Howe as his backroom staff.

Last time England combined results with creative, inventive football seemed to me to be in 1998 and they were a bit unlucky not to make the quarters in all fairness.
owen10
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by Meols:
“If we're going foreign I'd actually take Hiddink, Blanc, Bilic. Klinsmann for some reason I just can't quite take to. No big reason, just a hunch.

I can see few English candidates but I'd be more than happy to have Hoddle back in charge with perhaps Gareth Southgate and Eddie Howe as his backroom staff.

Last time England combined results with creative, inventive football seemed to me to be in 1998 and they were a bit unlucky not to make the quarters in all fairness.”

I tnink most players that have played under him for England said he was most tactically aware manager they have played for

So maybe thats what England need at this moment


Do you think Hoddle would have played Roooney in midfield

And picking a squad without a winger
Meols
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“IDo you think Hoddle would have played Roooney in midfield

And picking a squad without a winger”

No huge idea but my suspicion is no to your first one. He had the wit to drop Gascoigne and that was a correct decision all hysteria aside, so I think he'd assess Rooney based on his best position and if he didn't think him worth his place, yes, he would probably have dropped him, perhaps not from the squad altogether.

Whether he'd have picked a winger is a leap into the unknown save for his being an advocate of wing backs and 3-5-2. Maybe he'd have had his hand forced by a lack of decent centre halves and could have tried Eric Dier as part of a back three and gone for three other central midfielders instead. All complete guesswork on my part.
pete137
29-06-2016
Originally Posted by owen10:
“I tnink most players that have played under him for England said he was most tactically aware manager they have played for

So maybe thats what England need at this moment


Do you think Hoddle would have played Roooney in midfield

And picking a squad without a winger”

Exactly. People also forget that Hoddle had the balls to drop Gazza from the world cup squad in 98. The sort of strong manager you need who is not swayed by players egos. Look at Roy, he would still have picked Rooney even if he broke his leg the day before he announced the squad. Roy was spineless. He took an unfit Wilshere who had played hardly any football because he didnt have the balls not to.
celesti
29-06-2016
Southgate's not into the idea of taking over for any length of time by all accounts. Wise move if true.
pete137
29-06-2016
Southgate knows that the public dont want him and he will be torn to shreds if he takes it. At least he doesnt have the arrogance to take a job which is clearly out of his depth, even on a temp basis.
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