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Old 02-07-2016, 10:51
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Just needs the right manager and here he is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3l_fTl4C0o
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Old 02-07-2016, 12:51
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Good interview with Stuart pearce. He was spot in everything he said about england. To be fair he's been saying that for years and we still haven't listened. Maybe now its time we did.
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Old 02-07-2016, 16:54
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And who puts that burden on them? They dont. It's the media and fans.
I don't think you can blame the fans. England fans in France seemed quite realistic when interviewed, before and after the defeat. Also having a large and noisy group of fans should help the team. The media are solely to blame, raising expectation when little is justified. They love to talk the team up then crush them when they are down. All this talk of losing to "minnows" for example. Iceland are higher ranked than Scotland and just one place below Ireland. Would the English media dare portray them as minnows? Yet the loss to Iceland is portrayed as the worst thing to happen to English football. In fact it could be the best thing that's happened. A modern wake-up call, like the home defeat to Hungary was in the 50s.
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Old 02-07-2016, 17:41
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I don't think you can blame the fans. England fans in France seemed quite realistic when interviewed, before and after the defeat. Also having a large and noisy group of fans should help the team. The media are solely to blame, raising expectation when little is justified. They love to talk the team up then crush them when they are down. All this talk of losing to "minnows" for example. Iceland are higher ranked than Scotland and just one place below Ireland. Would the English media dare portray them as minnows? Yet the loss to Iceland is portrayed as the worst thing to happen to English football. In fact it could be the best thing that's happened. A modern wake-up call, like the home defeat to Hungary was in the 50s.
It certainly isn't all the fans. Those that follow the team abroad are generally proper fans.

It's all those online, and on the phone ins that ramp up the hysteria. Home fans tend to be very impatient too, and many times over the years players have spoke of the nervousness playing at home.
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Old 02-07-2016, 17:42
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Jurgen Klinsmann is bookies favourite.
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Old 02-07-2016, 18:41
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Jurgen Klinsmann is bookies favourite.
Got to be a good choice.

Yet another former Spurs man to follow Ramsey, Venables, Taylor (Peter), and Hoddle
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Old 02-07-2016, 18:44
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Got to be a good choice.

Yet another former Spurs man to follow Ramsey, Venables, Taylor (Peter), and Hoddle
A Spurs man keeping the seat warm for Pochettino.


Well, I hope it's him and not Tim Sherwood!
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Old 02-07-2016, 19:18
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Jurgen Klinsmann is bookies favourite.
Thats all we need a manager who is tactically inept
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Old 02-07-2016, 19:28
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A Spurs man keeping the seat warm for Pochettino.


Well, I hope it's him and not Tim Sherwood!
No, no, no, no!

And no to the second name either.
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Old 02-07-2016, 20:42
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Hoddle should be allowed to finish what he started. As long as he can keep his batty views to himself.
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Old 02-07-2016, 21:58
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Jurgen Klinsmann is bookies favourite.
For what it's worth, under Klinsmann, our A-team lost competitive tournament matches AT HOME to Jamaica and Panama in the 2015 Gold Cup, and this year we lost 2-0 away to Guatemala in WC qualifying.
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Old 02-07-2016, 22:15
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Can't be Hoddle surely ?

How long has he been out of the game........10 years ?

I know he's done a bit of 'advising and assisting' but that's not like being in the hot seat
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Old 02-07-2016, 23:04
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Can't be Hoddle surely ?
I hope not.

No matter his previous record, his name is far too toxic to take over again.
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Old 02-07-2016, 23:12
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I honestly don't see where Hoddle fits into things, he had his chance when he was an actual manager, now that he has been out of the game for as long as he has, he shouldn't be considered.

By all means talk to him out about who should be best suited for the role, in as wide a "fact finding mission", as possible, but not him for he actual job.
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Old 02-07-2016, 23:22
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For what it's worth, under Klinsmann, our A-team lost competitive tournament matches AT HOME to Jamaica and Panama in the 2015 Gold Cup, and this year we lost 2-0 away to Guatemala in WC qualifying.
So he is worse than Roy Hodgson

And he is the bookies favourite

Im changing my nationality to Welsh
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Old 02-07-2016, 23:28
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So he is worse than Roy Hodgson

And he is the bookies favourite

Im changing my nationality to Welsh
I am part Irish, so I know where I am heading of to!
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Old 02-07-2016, 23:55
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Hoddle should be allowed to finish what he started. As long as he can keep his batty views to himself.
He'd probably have good footballing ideas but PR wise might be a risk when you consider the furore caused over his comments back in 1999 when social media wasn't the same as it is now!
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:03
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The Irish television analysis of the England shambles was cutting and accurate. Didi Hamann described the Premier League as massively over-hyped by huge television money and the players no way as good as they think they are, who would not be paid a quarter of their inflated wages in Spain, France or Germany.

England does not even recognize their problems, the team is awful and every type of manager has been tried up to this point, were all the coaches useless ?
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Old 03-07-2016, 01:16
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He'd probably have good footballing ideas but PR wise might be a risk when you consider the furore caused over his comments back in 1999 when social media wasn't the same as it is now!
I'd presume that he isn't the same person with the same half baked beliefs now , some 17 years later . Imagine what was going through your mind 17 years ago
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Old 03-07-2016, 06:00
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The Irish television analysis of the England shambles was cutting and accurate. Didi Hamann described the Premier League as massively over-hyped by huge television money and the players no way as good as they think they are, who would not be paid a quarter of their inflated wages in Spain, France or Germany.

England does not even recognize their problems, the team is awful and every type of manager has been tried up to this point, were all the coaches useless ?
The problem is the English players, not the league as a whole. England must be the only major league where foreign players predominate the players of the national league. This means that the England team is full of a bunch of overrated individuals because the talent pool is so shallow.
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:05
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Will Joachim Low be available after the Euros?
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:30
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The Irish television analysis of the England shambles was cutting and accurate. Didi Hamann described the Premier League as massively over-hyped by huge television money and the players no way as good as they think they are, who would not be paid a quarter of their inflated wages in Spain, France or Germany.

England does not even recognize their problems, the team is awful and every type of manager has been tried up to this point, were all the coaches useless ?
But these Welsh players that everyone is getting so exited about as just as "overpaid" in just as "over-rated" a league so that doesn't really stack up. To say nothing of the number of foreign players in the league who are also at the Euro's.

England have good players. People can slate them and have a go at them but they are not bad players and that has been the case for years. The problem with England is the complete lack of any sort of coherent plan. I saw someone speak very well about this (Giggs?) and they were saying that England dont ever look to bring groups through the ranks together and dont take the youth and U21 tournaments seriously enough. Players drop out at the drop of a hat or are fast-tracked to the senior squad whereas in other countries they are allowed to develop so by the time they are 22 as group they have been to tournaments and are used to it. Obviously you will have players coming in and dropping out along the way but a core coming through allows you to do what Germany did and go from a struggling side to World Champions. Instead what England do is simply change the manager, win a few games and think its all fixed, then reach a major Championship and are left disappointed.
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:35
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He'd probably have good footballing ideas but PR wise might be a risk when you consider the furore caused over his comments back in 1999 when social media wasn't the same as it is now!
Actually if it had happened now would he have been sacked at all. Remember, that to all intents and purposes, Hoddles comments were from his religious beliefs, however wrong we may find them, and in todays world would the FA sack a person due to their religion ? It would be dodgy ground.
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:43
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Actually if it had happened now would he have been sacked at all. Remember, that to all intents and purposes, Hoddles comments were from his religious beliefs, however wrong we may find them, and in todays world would the FA sack a person due to their religion ? It would be dodgy ground.
Religion or not, it doesn't give you are free pass to attack the disabled. I dont think the FA can go back even if they did think he had something to offer. His first press conference "So Glenn, do you still believe the disabled are being punished for a past life?" Who needs that? The FA have enough issues with the present without worrying about reincarnation.
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Old 03-07-2016, 08:53
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Actually if it had happened now would he have been sacked at all. Remember, that to all intents and purposes, Hoddles comments were from his religious beliefs, however wrong we may find them, and in todays world would the FA sack a person due to their religion ? It would be dodgy ground.
Im sorry, but i cannot agree with you there.

As a thought experiment, replace the word "disabled" in his comments with another minority group until you find one that would be unacceptable. (clue - they all are).

Can you imagine in 2016 the england manager attacking disabled children in such a way? They would be sacked before the sun fell below the horizon.

If we ignore his awful comments, take a look at his record. Out of football management for 10 years after failure after failure - his last dismissal from lowly Wolves. His experiment with QPR and fellow idiot Redknapp was an utter, utter disaster.

Why have no clubs come in for him? We constantly hear that "hoddle has thrown his hat in the ring", only to find that no chairman wants him - none of the 92 clubs! What does this tell you?

If we ignore his comments, and his record and that he has not had a job in 10 years, and his commentry is so absent of insight, sometimes not describing that the replay is showing him in super slow mo ("great save by joe hart"??), lets look at his methods?

Employing faith healers, (thats a "psychic" michael owen, not a psychologist)
Putting into place superstitions and rituals to win, rather than, you know, coaching.

Is he really the best of the best?

This man is a charlatan, and one step away from court for hate crimes. He would be a disaster worse than hodgson and Mcclaren combined.

Im also sick of hearing that the best ex-players (like gerrard and lampard) should pick the next manager. Why?

Its ridiculous
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