Didn't he also put together a lineup for a game before his wife reminded him 12 players isn't allowed?
Next England Manager?
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Originally Posted by celesti:
“Didn't he also put together a lineup for a game before his wife reminded him 12 players isn't allowed?”
“Didn't he also put together a lineup for a game before his wife reminded him 12 players isn't allowed?”
Good story for the after dinner speaking circuit!
Originally Posted by celesti:
“Didn't he also put together a lineup for a game before his wife reminded him 12 players isn't allowed?”
“Didn't he also put together a lineup for a game before his wife reminded him 12 players isn't allowed?”
Don't think it was that according to his autobiography he picked 11 outfield players and no goalkeeper
People mock the David James situation but it so nearly worked and if fowler had put that penalty away it probably would have been the greatest substation of all time. Thought what it did to Jon mackens confidence is another thing
clearly, ex professional footballers should not need to do badges.
probably nobody should.
It's hardly equivalent to being a doctor, or a solicitor, is it?
Or is it?
Do you reckon Alf Ramsey got his badges.
Or bill nicholson, or bill shankly, or bob paisley, or brian clough. or even Sir Alec Ferguson (well he may have,but I'm sure he didn't need them)
meanwhile no doubt Hodgson and McLaren got loads of badges. I would have loved to see what was on the I-pads they were confusing the subs with, just before sending them on.
probably nobody should.
It's hardly equivalent to being a doctor, or a solicitor, is it?
Or is it?
Do you reckon Alf Ramsey got his badges.
Or bill nicholson, or bill shankly, or bob paisley, or brian clough. or even Sir Alec Ferguson (well he may have,but I'm sure he didn't need them)
meanwhile no doubt Hodgson and McLaren got loads of badges. I would have loved to see what was on the I-pads they were confusing the subs with, just before sending them on.
Originally Posted by Georges Grun:
“Geoff Thomas 20/1
Nayim 15/1
Alemao 18/1
Tony Daley 5/1”
“Geoff Thomas 20/1
Nayim 15/1
Alemao 18/1
Tony Daley 5/1”
I dont see
David Cameron
Jeremy Corbyn
Nigel Farage
On your list
Originally Posted by owen10:
“I dont see
David Cameron
Jeremy Corbyn
Nigel Farage
On your list”
“I dont see
David Cameron
Jeremy Corbyn
Nigel Farage
On your list”
They're not in the profession son.
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“The coaching issue is indeed an issue but it was brought up years ago and is something that needs to be addressed away from the problem of the national team. It will take a decade or more to see the benefits of making coaching badges more accessible and in all honesty I thought that was being addressed already in one of the many other "root and branch reviews" of the entire game that take place every time England crash out of a major championships.”
“The coaching issue is indeed an issue but it was brought up years ago and is something that needs to be addressed away from the problem of the national team. It will take a decade or more to see the benefits of making coaching badges more accessible and in all honesty I thought that was being addressed already in one of the many other "root and branch reviews" of the entire game that take place every time England crash out of a major championships.”
Yes, my (limited) understanding is coaching has been the one big plan by the FA for the last few years, but its still too soon to see if their youth coaching has developed more or better players for national team. There's not much else they can influence in football anyhow.
So i think the plan, that has been up and running for a little while now, is the FA develop thousands of coaches to go into grassroot level youth football. Then the Prem League teams carry on with the development, but the Prem League clubs have to have an FA trained coach at their youth level. And that's why the Prem League have been allowed to increase the mileage radius of kids they can take into their academies.
One example of FA coach development:
https://www.theguardian.com/football...t-georges-park
There was some quote from someone earlier on the radio about the FA being after someone who had experience of managing in the premier league and speaks English (I think they said that rather than is English). Presumably that means they are looking to avoid the Capello situation if they go foreign again where he came in and seemed not to have a great handle on the group of players at his disposal.
So I'm thinking if there's any truth in that then Hiddink is still a possibility. And also Klinsmann is out I guess (as far as I can remember) unless they are happy enough to include commentating on games occasionally to be the same as having experience in the Premier League.
Current betting from random online bookie is....
6/1 Klinsmann
6/1 Allardyce
7/1 Hiddink
8/1 Hoddle
12/1 Southgate (unlikely unless he's going for the M Gove route to the top job)
16/1 Redknapp
16/1 Blanc
16/1 Wenger
18/1 Pardew
20/1 Howe
20/1 Shearer
20/1 Bilic
So I'm thinking if there's any truth in that then Hiddink is still a possibility. And also Klinsmann is out I guess (as far as I can remember) unless they are happy enough to include commentating on games occasionally to be the same as having experience in the Premier League.
Current betting from random online bookie is....
6/1 Klinsmann
6/1 Allardyce
7/1 Hiddink
8/1 Hoddle
12/1 Southgate (unlikely unless he's going for the M Gove route to the top job)
16/1 Redknapp
16/1 Blanc
16/1 Wenger
18/1 Pardew
20/1 Howe
20/1 Shearer
20/1 Bilic
Originally Posted by TJ-67:
“Pardew in.
Rooney, Hart, Sterling, Wlishere banished forever.
4-1-3-2
Pick the squad on form,”
“Pardew in.
Rooney, Hart, Sterling, Wlishere banished forever.
4-1-3-2
Pick the squad on form,”
It cannot be pardew.....
I think Arsenal fans would be happy if it was Wenger, but I very much doubt he'll leave his amazing job security to be embarrassed and ridiculed as an England coach
Allardyce, Hoddle, Pardew ... I would prefer Manuel from Fawlty Towers.
As for Klinsmann, can people not imagine how our xenophobic German hating popular press would react to a German manager of England? And do they seriously think the lily-livered, spineless FA would be prepared to confront such prejudice when their entire existence has been premised on evading responsibility, passing the buck and avoiding taking any decision which might in any way make them feel uncomfortable or challenged. I'm old enough to remember their scandalous, cowardly failure to appoint Brian Clough as England manager and I don't believe the FA has changed fundamentally since then: its first criterion for an England manager is someone who will not rock their boat.
Who do I favour? Someone who knows they can only succeed if the FA has a clear strategy, agreed with the Premier League, about the changes needed to make the England national team a serious contender for contesting the finals of the main international tournaments. Anyone who believes their own appointment, without such a strategy, can transform England's performance at the World Cup and Euros should be rejected as yet another fantasist subscribing to a model that has repeatedly failed for 50 years.
As for Klinsmann, can people not imagine how our xenophobic German hating popular press would react to a German manager of England? And do they seriously think the lily-livered, spineless FA would be prepared to confront such prejudice when their entire existence has been premised on evading responsibility, passing the buck and avoiding taking any decision which might in any way make them feel uncomfortable or challenged. I'm old enough to remember their scandalous, cowardly failure to appoint Brian Clough as England manager and I don't believe the FA has changed fundamentally since then: its first criterion for an England manager is someone who will not rock their boat.
Who do I favour? Someone who knows they can only succeed if the FA has a clear strategy, agreed with the Premier League, about the changes needed to make the England national team a serious contender for contesting the finals of the main international tournaments. Anyone who believes their own appointment, without such a strategy, can transform England's performance at the World Cup and Euros should be rejected as yet another fantasist subscribing to a model that has repeatedly failed for 50 years.
Originally Posted by NiteOwl12:
“its first criterion for an England manager is someone who will not rock their boat.”
“its first criterion for an England manager is someone who will not rock their boat.”
but of course it is. Why would the FA appoint someone that will need them to constantly manage them and the media - and path them 3.5 million a year for the privilege?
They will appoint someone who will be a yes man, who is not too much trouble - with no real ambition apart from qualifying
The problem was that Roy went a little bit weird, doing things to the team that were clearly disadvantageous - and getting ratty when questioned about them. He started to believe in himself and found he was hopelessly out of his depth.
Fundamentals like picking a consistent team, not taking injured players, or putting your best striker/ header on corners, or playing tired players.
The cycle will repeat
The FA have a problem. The people who ARE good enough do not want the job. The people who are not good enough are knocking their door down.
Originally Posted by Xela M:
“I think Arsenal fans would be happy if it was Wenger, but I very much doubt he'll leave his amazing job security to be embarrassed and ridiculed as an England coach”
“I think Arsenal fans would be happy if it was Wenger, but I very much doubt he'll leave his amazing job security to be embarrassed and ridiculed as an England coach”
He wont. The only way Wenger is ever leaving Arsenal is in a box.
Originally Posted by pete137:
“He wont. The only way Wenger is ever leaving Arsenal is in a box.”
“He wont. The only way Wenger is ever leaving Arsenal is in a box.”
The funny thing is Arsenal players are playing some outstanding football in this tournament and the Copa America, so on paper they could be winning the league this year, but we just know it's not going to happen...
Originally Posted by pete137:
“He wont. The only way Wenger is ever leaving Arsenal is in a box.”
“He wont. The only way Wenger is ever leaving Arsenal is in a box.”
and it would mean a pay cut from 8m a year to 3.5 m a year
Unless the FA match his Arsenal salary!
Originally Posted by pete137:
“Redknapp with Sherringham, Pearce and Shearer on his staff would be interesting.”
“Redknapp with Sherringham, Pearce and Shearer on his staff would be interesting.”
Interesting in what way, as in watching a car crash?
What on earth can this list of failures possibly bring to the team?
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“The coaching issue is indeed an issue but it was brought up years ago and is something that needs to be addressed away from the problem of the national team. It will take a decade or more to see the benefits of making coaching badges more accessible and in all honesty I thought that was being addressed already in one of the many other "root and branch reviews" of the entire game that take place every time England crash out of a major championships.”
“The coaching issue is indeed an issue but it was brought up years ago and is something that needs to be addressed away from the problem of the national team. It will take a decade or more to see the benefits of making coaching badges more accessible and in all honesty I thought that was being addressed already in one of the many other "root and branch reviews" of the entire game that take place every time England crash out of a major championships.”
Yes, remember the FA coming out with this line after the last two major championships.
Also, how much did they spend on St Georges Park which was supposed to lead to it being the hub of coaching in England?.
Originally Posted by Georges Grun:
“They're not in the profession son.”
“They're not in the profession son.”
Well they could not do a worse job than the manager that has just resigned
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