I'm open to the Hoddle suggestion but I'd prefer it to be a younger coach who can grow with the team rather than an older statesman. If this is going to be a 'young' squad going forward it's going to be helpful not to have a manager who is at the stage of his career where he sees international management as the easy option/semi-retirement who maybe doesn't need to coach relatively inexperienced (at intl level) players and is instead expecting to just turn up and pass on his knowledge to already seasoned players.

Personally if we can find a coach under 50 who's got a decent number of years experience, preferably in different national leagues with decent finishing positions, regardless as to whether they've won silverware anywhere, I'd go for them. If they exist. They must, surely?

Andre Villas-Boas is the first name that comes to mind reading that.

But still he has no proof he is any good has a manager, so why take a punt which will most likely lead to another 4 years of gloom when he fails like all those before.

Do you think Chelsea or Man Utd would take a punt on him

Its a completely different job.

I wouldn't be against it in theory given what i'd said, though I don't think he's a particularly good manager so I'd rather pick someone whose existence didn't make me look like a hypocrite.

Cough, splutter, gasp. NO!

I'd still rather him than Redknapp, mind you.

Neither him nor Hoddle should be anywhere near the job.

Nevermind

Bielsa just quit after 2 days at Lazio, wonder why......

Fingers crossed!

Saw this on Twitter "Reports in ARG that Bielsa called 5 clubs with players he was promised by Lazio, and learned that Lazio had never contacted them."

Does anyone here has any news on Didier Deschamps on whether he will stay on as France manager after the Euros

Why wouldn't he?

and still one that they have zero experience of.

Ive said it before, because they were part of a team has zero baring of them as a motivator/ coach or manager.

Like your star pupil in class thinking they can teach a class!

How do you explain so many ex-players becoming good managers then?

I would hazard a guess most professional managers are ex players, not all ex players make good managers though, especially those that are TV pundits, they talk a good job, that's about it.

Actually I have seen that happen in Colleges.

Nevertheless there is an idea that one type of manager makes you ready to be another type of manager and I dont believe that to be the case.

Ryan Giggs or John Terry could be great mangers because they actually happen to be good coaches and have a natural aptitude for it, both could go on to manager United and Chelsea respectively. If they are good or a disaster I dont think will be greatly influence by either of them going to manage Bolton for 2 years because the job is so far removed from managing Chelsea or United, yet we insist these guys "prove" themselves first. Moyes "proved" himself at Preston and then Everton but he was still a disaster at Man Utd because its a different job.

Similarly getting West Ham promoted or keeping Sunderland up doesn't ready Allardyce and Pardew for managing England IMO.

At least an ex-international will be familiar will the international environment and with the challenges of tournament football.

why are only the best players considered for top managerial jobs like the england manager?

Shearer, Rio etc

I have been told in this forum that it doesnt matter if you have never managed before and that its a "completely different job" to a club manager.

So why should only the best players be considered? Why not a god awful player?

Zat Knight playerd for england, him and steve guppy could do a job together.

It is no more ridiculous than a dream team of shearer and rio.

Here is a list of managers who could be avaliable after the Euros have finished

Joachim Low
Vicente Del Bosque
Didier Deschamps

Marc Wilmots, only kidding

Out of those lot i would go for Joachim Low

Didn't the German FA say that Low is staying where he is?

Codeblue might never have experienced education post school level because that's exactly what happens at universities


What you say makes no sense whatsoever because 99.999% of managers have been players - either successful or unsuccessful ones at lower levels. So the overwhelming majority of managers (including the present Chelsea manager) are ex-players - some better players than others.

Anyway, I don't get your aversion to Shearer. If Germany - a country that has had infinitely more success in the sport than England - can trust its former stars to manage the national team, I don't see why England should be clutching their beads at the thought?

Yes, although he said he wasn't yet sure about his future, which has led to media speculation.

And I don't see Dechamps leaving his post. Why would he?

Well if wins the Euros with France, he might want a new challenge

And the England job is definitely a big challenge

But he has a great team. The best generation of French players since the sides of 1998-00. Why wouldn't he want to try win the World Cup with France?

Holy crap. I'd forgot Zat Knight played for England.