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Who would u go for as manager codeblue?
Managerial CV: La Liga (s) Supercupa Spain Champions League(s) Uefa supercup UEFA European Championship FIFA World Cup Last managerial job win percentage 76% Big Sam: Managerial CV: Nothing Last managerial job win percentage 29% Who would you rather have, Nova? |
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I'd take Wenger, would be happy with dely bosque or hiddink as short term solutions.
If English, allardice is only option for me in terms of experienced managers...he would have an extremely short rope with fans and journos though. Would easily take him over hoddle or redknapp |
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i have placed in this forum many times my method of selection. Start at the top and work your way down.
im not trying to be negative, but is "big sam" with a win percentage of 29, who has never managed top players or won anything, ever, really the best we can do? The other alternative seems to be Hoddle, who is worse than big sam! |
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Hiddink for the next couple of years, then hope that the options look a bit better after the W Cup.
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I would still go down the ex-player route.
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Surely you could get God to be the next manager of England but if the players can't play as cohesive unit, if they struggle to pass the ball, if they can't break down the opposition's defence - it will amount to nothing.
Perhaps no football manager on the planet can make England do well at the Euros or World Cup? Perhaps the players - for whatever reason - AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH? Sometimes you just gotta accept the truth staring you in the face. |
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Surely you could get God to be the next manager of England but if the players can't play as cohesive unit, if they struggle to pass the ball, if they can't break down the opposition's defence - it will amount to nothing.
Perhaps no football manager on the planet can make England do well at the Euros or World Cup? Perhaps the players - for whatever reason - AREN'T GOOD ENOUGH? Sometimes you just gotta accept the truth staring you in the face. |
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I'd take Wenger, would be happy with dely bosque or hiddink as short term solutions.
I would even wait a year for wenger |
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I would take any of them, all good shouts, over the the usual suspects of big sam, hoddle, harry or ex-players with no managerial experience
I would even wait a year for wenger |
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You cant wait a year. That's the worst suggestion of the lot.
Either way, del Bosque would be my current choice of managers who are available. |
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I would personally wait a year for wenger (its not my sugestion remember) than take hoddle, harry, big sam et al for 2.
Either way, del Bosque would be my current choice of managers who are available. That's not me saying "give it to big Sam instead" I just don't think its a viable option either. |
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I don't think you can devalue the post by putting it on hold for a year It would also be difficult to kick out a placeholder if he was doing well and the team were gaining favour with the public.
That's not me saying "give it to big Sam instead" I just don't think its a viable option either. So we move on. I am still yet to see any valid reasons why Big sam should get the job, or hoddle, or a sky/ BBC pundit. It would absolutely devalue the post even more than Hodgson has. How the FA didn't sack him after the world cup i will never know. |
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I don't get how Hoddle's name seriously came up and continues to be put forward. Where's Curbs?
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I agree, if wenger wanted it he should have handed in his notice at Arsenal.
So we move on. I am still yet to see any valid reasons why Big sam should get the job, or hoddle, or a sky/ BBC pundit. It would absolutely devalue the post even more than Hodgson has. How the FA didn't sack him after the world cup i will never know. You answered your own question. When the likes of Big Sam and Hoddle are mentioned it shows how few suitable candidates there are. It was the same two years ago so the FA decided to give Hodgson one more tournament and hope England do OK. Another failure has forced their hand though. |
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In another thread a poster said England were the worst team from the British Isles in the Euros and I angrily replied that wasn't the case as we'd beaten Wales and not lost a game, but of course that was before the Iceland game and the way we lost that game means I have to hold my hands up and say: WhoAteMeDinner, if you're reading this, you were right after all and I apologise.
I just hope now that the reason we lost to Iceland in the manner that we did was down to Hodgson rather than the players as digitalspyfan1 suggests, but of course he could be right about that too. |
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In another thread a poster said England were the worst team from the British Isles in the Euros and I angrily replied that wasn't the case as we'd beaten Wales and not lost a game, but of course that was before the Iceland game and the way we lost that game means I have to hold my hands up and say: WhoAteMeDinner, if you're reading this, you were right after all and I apologise.
I just hope now that the reason we lost to Iceland in the manner that we did was down to Hodgson rather than the players as digitalspyfan1 suggests, but of course he could be right about that too. |
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Why are the suits scared of picking the best man for the job.
Clough was ignored. Allardyce was ignored when Hodgkin got it. |
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Oh boy.
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Why are the suits scared of picking the best man for the job.
Clough was ignored. Allardyce was ignored when Hodgkin got it. |
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Why are the suits scared of picking the best man for the job.
Clough was ignored. Allardyce was ignored when Hodgkin got it. |
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the best man for the job.
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Allardyce
Take a guess where you went wrong.
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Well when you watch these English players week after week in the PL do you think they are better or worse than the players you watch every week in the PL who play for Northern Ireland, Scotland, Wales and Eire?
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Does England have anyone as good as Ramsey? Or Bale? Can you realistically expect an offer from a big foreign club for any English player? They are not exactly fighting over them
England have a very good group of talented young players, and I hope they get the proper support, and are not written off for life over one bad game. |
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Why are the suits scared of picking the best man for the job.
Clough was ignored. Allardyce was ignored when Hodgkin got it. Big Sam will get hammered from day one by the press and fans if he gets the job. |
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If you ask Arsenal fans their opinion of Ramsey, I suspect a good number of them won't see him as this great world class talent that he's being made out to be on the back of a good tournament.
Nicky Butt had an excellent World Cup in 2002. |
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