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We just have a very small pool of people to select from, so no matter who is appointed, it will most likely be a disappointment.
He is in the top one
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david moyes has been a terrible failure in his last two appointments, and has won nothing. zero, zilch.
He is out of work, and cannot get a gig in 92 clubs so far. Why on earth should he waltz into the top job? |
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Cristiano Ronaldo has been suggested in another thread. I'll go with that
Has the England manager ever taken his shirt off after a game?
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Huh?
I did justify my option, by saying that the pool of available people that could reasonably assumed to be in line with a chance of getting the job, is not that wide, or deep, so whomever The FA decide will be a disappointment to a large sway of the public. Saying we have a poor pool to select from is not justifying your opinion. It is not explaining why Laudrup is a better candidate than Hiddink. It's giving a separate opinion. There's a difference. Quote:
As for the Laudrup v Hiddink bit you are referring to, well both would yes be coming off of not too successful a time, however on a purely personal level, Laudrup I believe has more going for him then Hiddink, who is getting on in years. Why didn't you say that in the first place? When asking why Laudrup would be a better choice than Hiddink, all I was asking is for you to tell me why Laudrup would be a better choice than Hiddink.But this is purely my opinion, you or others may disagree and think Hiddink is a better option, and fair enough then, I have no quibbles about that being the case. Wanting Laudrup is fine, wanting him for the way he coaches, his style of football or his age is fine. Wanting him over Hiddink is fine. It's when you suggest him after shooting down other people's suggestions of Hiddink, saying it's rewarding failure that it causes an issue when your suggestion is no different in that sense, except for the fact that Hiddink has actually won stuff that matters, even if it hasn't been recently. |
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Well we only scored right at the death against Wales, so it wasn't as if it was a case of beating them comfortably or anything like that, if anything it should really have been a draw at best for England.
From there we just capitulated big time under pressure from Iceland, as they had a gameplan, whereas it just looked as if Roy said, "meh, it's only Iceland, just go out there and beat them. Oh and Harry, your still on set-pieces okay?!". |
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I think the Wales game was more like a derby game, all of the players knew each other, and so there was a bit of personal pride at stake, perhaps in the England looker room there might have been the opinion that "we can't let Wales beat us!", and so the drive and determination was there right until the end.
Whereas against Russia and especially, Slovakia and Iceland, I fear that there was an arrogant opinion if, "all we have to do is play our stuff and we will win, they have nothing for us to be afraid of.", amd hence why that was our downfall, we were shocked to find the latter two making it hard for us, and not just allowing us almost to score. Our arrogance was our undoing big time I think. |
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I think the Wales game was more like a derby game, all of the players knew each other, and so there was a bit of personal pride at stake, perhaps in the England looker room there might have been the opinion that "we can't let Wales beat us!", and so the drive and determination was there right until the end.
Whereas against Russia and especially, Slovakia and Iceland, I fear that there was an arrogant opinion if, "all we have to do is play our stuff and we will win, they have nothing for us to be afraid of.", amd hence why that was our downfall, we were shocked to find the latter two making it hard for us, and not just allowing us almost to score. Our arrogance was our undoing big time I think. |
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harry putting himself forward in the media again
talk about deluded, its laughable |
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The winner against Wales may've been near the end but we had already equalised only a few minutes into the second half and crucially we played well. What I don't understand is why we played well against them and Russia too when arguably both along with Slovakia should've been tougher games than Iceland. Going by your second paragraph do you think the reason we played better against Wales and beat them was because we didn't take them for granted unlike against Iceland?
I think there was a bust up behind the scenes too bigger than reported and it maybe had a knock-on effect on morale. I know the media made mention of the FA not being happy with the team picked for Slovakia, and hinted at other sources of unhappiness. I've no evidence of it being a bigger issue than reported but it's the impression I got from it all. Maybe there was a massive bust up immediately post-Slovakia and from then on the team spirit, confidence and everything else was shot? Or maybe they just got out fought and out played on the night, saw the headlines after everyone saying they would win, and couldn't respond positively? I don't know. My feelings are Iceland are/were better than some people made out and had shown that in the past, England aren't at the top level and are always vulnerable against anyone in knockout competition, and there seemed to be something off about the lack of response to the equaliser. There was effort, of course, but they looked very lacking in belief to my untrained eye. |
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I don't think there was any evidence to suggest England were arrogant at all. Id suggest the opposite was true especially against Iceland, the players looked fairly terrified altogether. Perhaps a bit of arrogance would have been a good thing.
It certainly looked like we didn't do much training to combat their long throws, why not have a guy stand near the throw in taker to at least affect it?? We just took our eye off of Iceland and boy did it cost us big time. |
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harry putting himself forward in the media again
talk about deluded, its laughable |
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Probably more like desperate to be someone again
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They should have gone for Rednapp over Hodgson.
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I think the Wales game was more like a derby game, all of the players knew each other, and so there was a bit of personal pride at stake, perhaps in the England looker room there might have been the opinion that "we can't let Wales beat us!", and so the drive and determination was there right until the end.
Whereas against Russia and especially, Slovakia and Iceland, I fear that there was an arrogant opinion if, "all we have to do is play our stuff and we will win, they have nothing for us to be afraid of.", amd hence why that was our downfall, we were shocked to find the latter two making it hard for us, and not just allowing us almost to score. Our arrogance was our undoing big time I think. If indeed it was arrogance then I hope the one positive consequence of our Iceland defeat is that we never again take ANY opponent for granted ever again, regardless of how "easy" they appear to be on paper. |
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You're probably right there. It wouldn't surprise me if arrogance was the reason. I certainly can't think of any other reason why we played so badly against Iceland and to a lesser extent, Slovakia.
If indeed it was arrogance then I hope the one positive consequence of our Iceland defeat is that we never again take ANY opponent for granted ever again, regardless of how "easy" they appear to be on paper. We showed an out of date attitude, and we got severely punished for it. Hopefully we will learn from this, but I will not be holding my breath that is for sure. |
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It was ineptitude rather than arrogance.
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It was ineptitude rather than arrogance.
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Either way, it was ineptitude.
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Brendan Rodgers ? Doing a great job at Celtic, but they might be willing to let him go.
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Brendan Rodgers ? Doing a great job at Celtic, but they might be willing to let him go.
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This is the same Harry Redknapp who wondered why Leicesters Wes Morgan hadnt been called up to the England squad? even though he plays for Trinidad, lol.
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Wes Morgan plays for Jamaica actually..
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Whoops, thanks for the correction, I was a little bit closer than Harry
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Slight irony in having a go at Harry and then getting it wrong yourself though, no?
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Steve Bruce was interviewed by the FA, yesterday. According to the Beeb.
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Has the England manager ever taken his shirt off after a game?
