Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Steve Bruce was interviewed by the FA, yesterday. According to the Beeb.”
“Steve Bruce was interviewed by the FA, yesterday. According to the Beeb.”
What a joke.
The FA, rewarding failures.
Next England Manager?
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Bruce is the definition of a journey man in terms of management... Also the sort who would stick with his favourites
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“Bruce is the definition of a journey man in terms of management... Also the sort who would stick with his favourites”
“Bruce is the definition of a journey man in terms of management... Also the sort who would stick with his favourites”
Surely that applies to all managers, to some degree.
Originally Posted by Jim De Ville:
“Surely that applies to all managers, to some degree.”
“Surely that applies to all managers, to some degree.”
I suppose so, but we are constantly complaining about using favourites, afraid to drop big names etc... Some managers you sense would be more inclined that way, and some not...
Bruce is another one who I actually think is decent at the level he operates at but does little that I think translates to international level.
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“I suppose so, but we are constantly complaining about using favourites, afraid to drop big names etc... Some managers you sense would be more inclined that way, and some not...”
“I suppose so, but we are constantly complaining about using favourites, afraid to drop big names etc... Some managers you sense would be more inclined that way, and some not...”
Problem is "we" as a fan base are often wrong. "we" clamoured for Alli and Kane pre-tournament and demanded Rooney dropped. Sometimes loyalty isn't actually a bad thing and sometimes its not always wise to go with the flavour of the month (not that I'm saying Alli and Kane are that BTW).
Originally Posted by Nova21:
“Bruce is the definition of a journey man in terms of management... Also the sort who would stick with his favourites”
“Bruce is the definition of a journey man in terms of management... Also the sort who would stick with his favourites”
Just which managers would not fit the "journey man" tag in your eyes??
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“What a joke.
The FA, rewarding failures.”
“What a joke.
The FA, rewarding failures.”
The trouble is, there is not this huge great big pool of managers that they can pick or select from, hence why with the greatest of respect, we are seeing Big Sam and Bruce being talked to about the role.
Quite who people were expecting I don't know (if we are talking about English candidates), Howe?? Pardew??
The only way that we could remotely get a decent manager would be if we were to go down the foreign manager road, seemingly with these two names in the fray, that is a road that The FA were not willing to go down.
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“The trouble is, there is not this huge great big pool of managers that they can pick or select from, hence why with the greatest of respect, we are seeing Big Sam and Bruce being talked to about the role.
Quite who people were expecting I don't know (if we are talking about English candidates), Howe?? Pardew??
The only way that we could remotely get a decent manager would be if we were to go down the foreign manager road, seemingly with these two names in the fray, that is a road that The FA were not willing to go down.”
“The trouble is, there is not this huge great big pool of managers that they can pick or select from, hence why with the greatest of respect, we are seeing Big Sam and Bruce being talked to about the role.
Quite who people were expecting I don't know (if we are talking about English candidates), Howe?? Pardew??
The only way that we could remotely get a decent manager would be if we were to go down the foreign manager road, seemingly with these two names in the fray, that is a road that The FA were not willing to go down.”
We've tried that with Eriksson and Capello. It didn't work.
Just give it to an Englishman.
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“We've tried that with Eriksson and Capello. It didn't work.
Just give it to an Englishman.”
“We've tried that with Eriksson and Capello. It didn't work.
Just give it to an Englishman.”
Okay fine, if you want an English manager/head coach, then Bruce, Big Sam, Pardew etc are the type or sort that will be in contention for the job.
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“We've tried that with Eriksson and Capello. It didn't work.
Just give it to an Englishman.”
“We've tried that with Eriksson and Capello. It didn't work.
Just give it to an Englishman.”
Depends on your definition of work, the 2 you mention had very good win ratios compared to English managers
Anyone else find the idea of interviewing these people utterly farcical?
Tell us about a time when you've led a team to work together to solve a problem. You may use examples from your professional or home life
Tell us about a time when you've led a team to work together to solve a problem. You may use examples from your professional or home life
Bruce could always reference the time he ran to his daughters aid and got smashed by an iron bar protecting her, I suppose that counts as stout English courage.
Makes Terry Butcher seem something of a wuss for that cut head of his.
Makes Terry Butcher seem something of a wuss for that cut head of his.
Originally Posted by Elyan:
“We've tried that with Eriksson and Capello. It didn't work.
Just give it to an Englishman.”
“We've tried that with Eriksson and Capello. It didn't work.
Just give it to an Englishman.”
Don't see how someone being 'foreign' suddenly makes them more susceptible to failure considering the record of English managers. Just because two people from countries other than England didn't win anything doesn't mean that no one who isn't from England can ever succeed.
Originally Posted by Bulge_:
“Anyone else find the idea of interviewing these people utterly farcical?
Tell us about a time when you've led a team to work together to solve a problem. You may use examples from your professional or home life”
“Anyone else find the idea of interviewing these people utterly farcical?
Tell us about a time when you've led a team to work together to solve a problem. You may use examples from your professional or home life”
Mr Bruce, tell us about any rape trials you have commented on inappropriately!
Originally Posted by batdude_uk1:
“Okay fine, if you want an English manager/head coach, then Bruce, Big Sam, Pardew etc are the type or sort that will be in contention for the job.”
“Okay fine, if you want an English manager/head coach, then Bruce, Big Sam, Pardew etc are the type or sort that will be in contention for the job.”
There is a massive reason pardew is not getting a look in!
Lets face it we're shit so why not give big sam, steve bruce, hoddle or even redknapp a chance. We can't do any worse. Can't imagine anyone gives us any chance come the worlds apart from those who are deluded enough to think this time we'll get to the final.
Originally Posted by codeblue:
“Mr Bruce, tell us about any rape trials you have commented on inappropriately!”
“Mr Bruce, tell us about any rape trials you have commented on inappropriately!”
Are there any managers you do actually have time for?
Originally Posted by Stilton Cheesew:
“Bruce is another one who I actually think is decent at the level he operates at but does little that I think translates to international level.”
“Bruce is another one who I actually think is decent at the level he operates at but does little that I think translates to international level.”
Agreed........I wouldn't mind Big Sam or Bruce
England are not a Barcelona, they're a West Brom
we need the kind of manager that takes a West Brom and get them to mid table
we need someone who can get England back to being a quarter final team like we were 10 years ago
then we can think about moving up from there
Originally Posted by swingaleg:
“Agreed........I wouldn't mind Big Sam or Bruce
England are not a Barcelona, they're a West Brom
we need the kind of manager that takes a West Brom and get them to mid table
we need someone who can get England back to being a quarter final team like we were 10 years ago
then we can think about moving up from there”
“Agreed........I wouldn't mind Big Sam or Bruce
England are not a Barcelona, they're a West Brom
we need the kind of manager that takes a West Brom and get them to mid table
we need someone who can get England back to being a quarter final team like we were 10 years ago
then we can think about moving up from there”
What a load of rubbish, the only reason they were a west brom is because they had an ex west brom manager in charge, put Sam or Bruce in charge and we will be a Sunderland or Hull.
The players we have available are capable of being a Tottenham, we just need a pochettino to manage them
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